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Old 02-04-16, 03:04 PM
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Hi Roger,

I couldn't agree more regarding John's research, a really splendid job. As you say the back mark is incredibly interesting and it is going to be fascinating keeping an eye out for examples that may be marked similar in the future.

Your comments on the reference to the King is always something to ponder one.

With such an established business (as it would appear from the newspaper notification) it is a wonder more example of these mark haven't been noted.

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Hello Roy

Yes, it does all make you wonder whether it was just a 19th century version of 'hype' - exaggerating the length in business and the reference to the King - just to encourage customers!

I guess we may never know but I will certainly be on the lookout for the same backmark!

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Hi, sorry to slightly divert your thread, Roy, but to the button lads: is there a reference book that deals with back marks? Or is the knowledge just from peoples private research and years of observation?

OK, back to your splendid button, Roy

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Hello Tim

There is no book (that I am aware of ) specifically covering button backmarks. They get a mention in several books relating to buttons but don't go into much detail. It would, indeed, take a book to cover all aspects of just British military backmarks!

Most of the available information is from a series of articles in "Button Lines" (Journal of the British Button Society) which has been added to and repeated on various internet sites over the years (just search button backmarks). Some of the original errors in the "Button Lines" articles have been repeated on the websites so all the info needs to be taken with a degree of caution.

There is an excellent book by Peter Nayler, "Military Button Manufacturers from the London Directories 1800-1899" (now out of print, I believe) which covers the names, address and dates of most of the London based button manufacturers. This does not cover the backmarks on buttons and obviously a 'business' address is not necessarily the same as a 'backmark' address but the book is very helpful in pinning down details of name and address changes and dates. Copies do come up on ebay and Amazon from time to time.

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Much appreciated Roger

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Greetings all,

I thought I would revise this thread with a new button to my collection that adds a little more detail to this topic.

The button is for the Louth Militia. However the back mark reads 'W&E Jones Dublin' (with laurel spray).

This brings the initials for William and Edward onto the same backmark. I haven't quite worked out yet if/how this can help me narrow down the date for this button but open to any/all help or advice.

P.s. Roger....I miss you and hope your are looking down and not laughing too much on my efforts.

Cheerio,

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Roy, that is a lovely piece, well done - Regards Mark
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Thanks Mark,

It's a cracking early button, so thrilled to have it in my modest collection.

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Hi, just joined to discuss an Irish Constabulary button that I unearthed today.
This thread seems to be about the makers Jones from Cork Hill Dublin.
What is interesting is that all the posts to date discuss E or W Jones.
The back mark of my button omits the first initial and simply says Jones Corkhill Dublin. Is this a different manufacturer or a later/earlier variant of the back mark? Below are a couple of images.

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W Jones was based and operated from 7 Golden Square London.
Very nice buttons.
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Thanks Rockfish,

Appreciate your input on this topic.

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