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Hi, folks.. an ideas about this old Police cap... U.S. ?
Hi folks, im Scott
and just found this forum whilst trying to ID an old Police cap. Have attempted to post a thread with images but got a message stating it would need some sort of Mod verification before being visible, any ideas how long that maight take plz. Many thanks i wonder if i can post pics here ??? |
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Hi Scott, welcome to the forum.
Your guess that the cap may be from the US is spot on. The badge shows the coat of arms of the state of Maryland.
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It is more than likely from the City of Baltimore. The cap itself is "generic" and is worn by many different US police depts.
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Hello
I suppose the button could be a generic US Police button but according to a well respected Railway Buttons book it was also used by Pullman, the railway company. Any chance that the cap is a 'made-up' item? Roger |
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The "P" design button is a "generic" version used by police depts. in the US who do not have their own custom buttons. It comes in various sizes. I suppose the "P" could represent anything the user wished it to, including for uniformed door staff at the "Paramount Hotel" or whatever.
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Hi Scott
I'd agree with Arthur and Dave that this is a Baltimore City Park Police badge (see link): http://baltimorecitypolicehistory.co...rk-police.html As to Roger's suggestion that the cap may be 'made up' it is possible - the link shows that the BCPP had custom buttons at one time but they wouldn't be the first, or last, force to change designs over time. I'd also add that the cap is probably for wear in the Summer - I have had similar items with an open-weave band to allow the wearer's head to 'breathe'. Caps with a closed weave - or even fur caps - would be worn during the Winter months. Nice find regardless Graham
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Perhaps it's my imagination but it seems that the Forum is more and more turning into an information/valuation forum for new members just for ebay selling purposes! Then again, perhaps I'm just getting cynical in my old age! Roger |
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Not your old age Roger, it is a sentiment shared across all ages.
Rgds, Thomas. |
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It is a shared sentiment.
Why not ask for a new rule: ban new members if they fail to observe this rule. They are only here to help them make money. They will not contribute. |
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Dave. Last edited by altcar73; 03-04-17 at 04:38 PM. |
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Obviously it is not for us to tell the Mods how to run their site but I do agree that a 'running in' period as a member before being able to ask questions like this one might go some way to solving the problem. I know there are those members who will say that this is not a problem but I do feel as if I am being taken for a ride at times. If someone is upfront about wanting information or a valuation for sales purposes then that's fine by me. It's just the rather sneaky "I'm a genuine collector wanting knowledge (but secretly intending to sell)" attitude that I don't like. It often takes me a little time and effort to come up with an answer (when I can) and I don't mind this for genuine queries. However, when it turns out that the item is then put up for sale and the seller just couldn't be bothered to do his/her own research then it does grate a little. It tends to make me wary about coming forward with information unless I know who the poster is. Roger PS Thank you Thomas for your reassuring comments! I thought I was just becoming a grumpy old man (well, I am really but it's nice to know I am not the only one with these thoughts). |
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I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments. I have been a beneficiary of advice on several occasions and I have been very grateful of the advice and guidance that has been offered. I have tried to help others whenever possible within my extremely limited knowledge range. However, like yourself, I feel it unacceptable that some people take advantage of the available expertise on offer from the experts on the forum. Perhaps as one gets older, one tends to becomes less tolerant .....perhaps it basically boils down to fundamental good manners.
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And this item isn't even remotely British or Commonwealth. I completely fail to understand why some join here to ask identification and valuation of items obviously not even slightly related to the aim of this forum (e.g nazi paraphernalia). As if there aren't any sources more knowledgeable or appropriate for that kind of gear out there.
It sometimes seems Google search is no longer free in some parts of the world??? Come on, at least try to give it a go yourself. Still, as long as fellow forum members are willing to help these cases not much will change I guess. Another pet peeve of mine is the unwillingness or inability to properly rotate images before posting, which is occurring more and more recently. What makes these persons think I'm willing to make time to make the trek to my reference library to help them identify an upside down or sideways image if they apparently don't even care about properly presenting their case? Uncivilised IMO, at least try and make an effort! Rant over, back to our regularly scheduled program. Rgds, Thomas. |
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