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Commando Beret?
Not holding out too much hope for this Beret, but would appreciate comment and observations. I have no idea of its age or originality, it belonged to an old friend of mine who is parting with some of his collection. Regards, Clive.
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Hi Clive,
Shame that it's lost the liner. If the rivets are brass and the crown of the beret has the spiral weave, then I don't see why it couldn't be WW2. Although they would have continued for a while after the war. The attached picture isn't mine but looks very close to yours. Regards Irv |
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Phenomenal beret Irv!!
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I wish it was mine
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For what its worth , this is just my opinion but the removal of the liner to make a smarter shape i believe is a post war habit ?? an I mean very post war 1960`s onwards ? they will ofcourse have been exceptions in war time
welcome others opinions please ??
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You're right there Michael ... several of my fellow RM's were 'kindly invited to make their way at a modest pace to the clothing store to buy a new CGB, having removed the liners to assist in the shaping thereof'! It was almost a hanging offence - one particular RSM had a habit of nailing non-compliant berets to the door of his office!
Ritchie. |
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the method of attaching to the beret is very close to mine (belonged to LCpl Smith MM RAMC)
the removal of the liner is and combat indicator and also not having the black backing. i served in Germany in 1988 (21 Engr Regt) and the RQMS used to stand at the Guard room at lunch time a would also check for lining in the berets. even removal of the plastic wasnt allowed. so i blame him for my bald bit http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=66288 |
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No not the spriral weave subject again!!! If the weave is spiral it is NOT WWII, it should be made of triangular segments joined in the centre, not 'spun'!
Difficult to tell, the cloth looks a bit bright (might just be the photo), the brass grommets were on British berets in to the 50s, but you do see modern berets with those too (not sure from what country they're from) but they have a little flap of leather attached to the band that goes up behind the badge, check to see if it had one of those (stitching holes in the band). A bloke sells them on ebay by the bucket load. Badge look odd for a spoon made 2 Cdo, and as Ted says you rarely see it without the backing and removing the liner is a common 'modern' practice but I don't think this was practiced in WW2. Obviously removing the liner is the quickest way for an unscrupulous type to try and pass off a post war beret as a war time one! I think this would let the rest of your great stuff down Clive! cheers Paul
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Army Commando: Setting Europe ablaze since 1940 Last edited by Belly; 20-06-13 at 07:34 AM. |
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Hi Paul,
I stand corrected. But the only beret I have which you can see for sure the triangular segments is on my 1943 (or before) Supak which is well used. I hope these pictures will help. My other berets which are all dated 1943-1945 it's hard to see the panels as they aren't as worn but you do see the center button where the segments come together. Regards Irv |
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More detailed pictures.
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Hi Irv,
This one passes the ww2 test, weave as Belly described. I agree that i would give the beret posted by Clive a wide berth Cheers, JB |
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I remember the RQ well, called everyone 'Young man' and hearing those words would stop you in your tracks and make you hope that some other poor bugger was in for the inquisition and you could escape his glare long enough to slide out of view scary little bloke but good as gold on the right day if you went to him with a problem. He never inspected my beret and my bald bit isn't too big, guess I was lucky Ry |
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Many thanks for the comments, seems that this Beret is a modern dud. It came with a couple of other items of headgear, American and British, all of which seem fine, so thought the Beret may stand a chance. Regards, Clive.
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Clive,
I thought it was perhaps the lighting in the picture but your beret seemed much lighter in colour when compared to the other posted examples. You guys almost make me want to collect Commando berets!!! Nice stuff. Cheers,
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Most of my images are really too bright, I use an auto adjust feature, which on occasion I should not. I do have a couple of examples already of the Commando Beret, one of them I will post with this reply. In this instance I did not really want the Beret, but was after the SOE Telescopic Cosh that belonged with it. I do not have my notes to hand, however as far as I recall it was owned by a Scottish Commando who was involved in training SOE students. Regards, Clive.
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