Unknown Maker

[Jelly Terror]

Hail Forum,

Having yesterday established beyond all reasonable doubt, thanks to the kind assistance of forum members, that the initial on the slider below is the letter 'G', I wonder if further help might be requested in relation to the following maker, supplier, tailor, outfitter etc?

The stamped maker mark says 'G REEVES LONDON' and is, to date, the only example I have encountered other than on the slider of a National Defence Company badge, which appeared on eBay (see attachments below):

JT G Reeves Slider Mark 1.jpg

JT G Reeves Slider Mark 2.jpg

JT G Reeves Lamb a.jpg JT G Reeves Lamb b.jpg

eBay NDC.jpg *

Does anybody have info as to this maker mark, please? I know for a fact that the Queen's badge is kosher, but the EVIIIR NDC badge is not one I am familiar with.

I am aware of the fake 'Charles Reeves' maker mark, covered brilliantly in Luke H's posts within this thread: https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=81809 hence the reason I thought it prudent first to establish that the Queen's slider mark was not an abbreviated version of that, but a separate body.

Your thoughts appreciated.

Regards,

JT

*eBay image

[KLR]

Brilliant, well done


(though my interest doesn't extend to buttons - but good luck)

[Luke H]

Afraid I have no info on the mark or company JT. Agree it’s G Reeves London, not one I recall seeing before.

Can confirm the EviiiR NDC is a genuine one.

Perhaps it’s no coincidence both badges are heavily stained and look somewhat messed with. I suspect the marks were added to both sliders post manufacture.

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by KLR

Brilliant, well done


(though my interest doesn't extend to buttons - but good luck)

[Thanks button]

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by Luke H

Afraid I have no info on the mark or company JT. Agree it’s G Reeves London, not one I recall seeing before.

Can confirm the EviiiR NDC is a genuine one.

Perhaps it’s no coincidence both badges are heavily stained and look somewhat messed with. I suspect the marks were added to both sliders post manufacture.

Yeah; the apparent absence of info connected with this mark doesn't bode well for it being legit, does it.

As Julian (I believe) alludes to, I seem to recall one or two of the forum button aficionados posting reeves-marked buttons previously. No idea if they were Reeves, G Reeves, C Reeves or other.

JT

[Luke H]

I believe it was member kingsley who showed what I can only describe as several artisan fake makers marks stamped on genuine Australian Rising Sun badges to presumably increase their desirability. Sadly that thread is gone.

The font was more convincing than many shown in the fake makers marks thread you linked in post #1. The forged FN mark lettering was slightly misaligned and an extra full stop present. It became apparent the letters of these marks had been stamped individually by hand.

Looking closely at your G Reeves marks you can see differences I think in the letter positions relative to each other and also the linearity of the mark.

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by Luke H

I believe it was member kingsley who showed what I can only describe as several artisan fake makers marks stamped on genuine Australian Rising Sun badges to presumably increase their desirability. Sadly that thread is gone.

The font was more convincing than many shown in the fake makers marks thread you linked in post #1. The forged FN mark lettering was slightly misaligned and an extra full stop present. It became apparent the letters of these marks had been stamped individually by hand.

Looking closely at your G Reeves marks you can see differences I think in the letter positions relative to each other and also the linearity of the mark.

That's interesting. Thank you.

Knowing that the Queen's badge is a legitimate example (despite it being possibly the most poorly-executed variant of all the Pattern 4681/1898 badges), and that I have several other examples from that particular die with no such stamp, certainly adds credence to your assertion that the mark was added post-manufacture.

Great stuff.

JT

[Rob Miller]

Is it possible its the name of the wearer, who for some reason owned a stamp with his name on it? Did these badges come from the same source?

Rob

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by Rob Miller

Is it possible its the name of the wearer, who for some reason owned a stamp with his name on it? Did these badges come from the same source?

Rob

Rob,

No, not from the same source. The Queen’s badge is from my collection, whereas the HDC badge is from an eBay listing.

JT