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Old 30-11-21, 04:22 AM
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Hello all,

I am sure others who have seen my various post will know I take interest in a few areas. Here are two Artists' Rifles badges that I would like some opinions on, do they look genuine to you? I know the white metal is circa post ww2 and the other gilded badge is around the time of World War 1. This one does not have the Brucie chin as it is called. I would appreciate any help as I have tried comparing other pictures on this forum but I would like to learn for certain what I am looking at.

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Old 30-11-21, 05:35 AM
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Both look OK to me.
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Old 30-11-21, 08:39 AM
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The lips on the WM version!
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Old 30-11-21, 03:49 PM
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The lips on the WM version!
Other examples seem to have those pronounced lips as well. Is that good or bad?
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Old 30-11-21, 04:23 PM
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The lips on the WM version!
The Jagger variant
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Old 30-11-21, 05:00 PM
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As you have it for date and authenticity.

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The Jagger variant
Brilliant. I Love it! Will have to use that from now on.
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Old 30-11-21, 05:47 PM
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That is clever and I appreciate the humor. Jokes aside, is the WM good, or am I wrong? Also, does anyone have anything more to say on the gilded example? That is the one I am mainly wondering about.
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Old 30-11-21, 06:16 PM
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As has been said both are genuine.

The WM badges from that die are widely regarded as later examples. Earlier WM Artists badges also exist.

Can you be more specific on the information you want on the GM Artist Rifles badge?

If you are looking for exact change dates I’m afraid no-one knows and the running order is complex. There are several useful threads on this topic.
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Old 30-11-21, 09:44 PM
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As has been said both are genuine.

The WM badges from that die are widely regarded as later examples. Earlier WM Artists badges also exist.

Can you be more specific on the information you want on the GM Artist Rifles badge?

If you are looking for exact change dates I’m afraid no-one knows and the running order is complex. There are several useful threads on this topic.
Apologies on making anyone repeat themselves unnecessarily. I just wanted to make absolutely certain I understood everyone. As for the GM badge, I just wanted to make sure I got the details right and that it is WW1 period. Otherwise, I have read the other posts and do see the complexity of the running order.
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Old 30-11-21, 10:39 PM
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I see.

There are several genuine Artists Rifles dies. A couple, including your Minerva with ‘eyeliner’ as I call her, have been restruck from the original die. Your badge is however genuine and shows correct good reverse detail and a period slider.

So far every blackened brass Artists Rifles I’ve seen has been from the eyeliner Minerva die. I’ve read that the Artists may have briefly adopted a green uniform in the 1930s, so could these BB badges which are quite scare be for wear on that? And might that date the die as still being in use in the 1930s? I don’t know I’m afraid.

In all honesty the badge could be anytime from WW1 until 1930s.
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