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25-07-17, 05:25 AM
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Irish Guards Cloth Title WWII ?
Hi all
Would this be a WWII era manufactured cloth title. If so, I've noticed a fair few titles with that coloured tight gauze(cloth ?) backing. Also rounded ends is that WWII / Post WWII or both. Still trying to learn the nuances. cheers Phill 
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26-07-17, 08:18 AM
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Phill,
I have two of these both with serifs, the one on the left came from a respected eBay dealer described as WW2, this is similar to your example. The one on the right is tighter trimmed with slightly narrower wording, this was bought from a trusted dealer who said it came from WW2 collection, they are most likely from different manufacturers and as Jerry says about the gauze they may be from different periods. I have no concrete provenance and would be interested myself if anything stands out as WW2 period (difficult I know) Paul
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26-07-17, 08:40 AM
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Thanks Jerry/Paul
I have noticed that colour(brownish) backed tight gauze(cloth?) on many titles but don't have the experience of collecting cloth titles. I don't know if there was a cross over period where they were issued and used(ie like para wings), as seems to be the case when trying to determine WWII manufactured era to c 1950 period unless you have provenance. If there are any more opinions would like to know. Much appreciated guys. Phill
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#5
26-07-17, 08:52 AM
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I have no Irish Guards titles, but one for the grenadiers and two for the Welsh.
The grens and one of the Welsh is C.WWII and is similar to those shown here, the other welsh example with the different backing is post WWII. Also showing a Recon Corps pair of titles which went out of existence in 1946 which has a very similar backing to yours Phil.
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#6
26-07-17, 08:57 AM
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Much appreciated Jerry
I'm after Welsh, Scots and Grenadier Guards for my Arnhem cloth Display. Now I at least know what to look for!! cheers Phill
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30-07-17, 02:18 PM
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Hello Jerry,
I do think the title that is the subject of this thread does have quite a bit of age to it, certainly appears not to have been made yesterday, I have to say that I like it. Regards Frank Quote:
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#8
30-07-17, 06:26 PM
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Many thanks to Paul , Jerry , Frank and John.
Yes it does John and I eventually came across your post, all very helpful. I want to add a WWII Welsh and Scots Guard CST, so this thread has helped me out in figuring out WWII era CST's. thanks guys Phill
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#9
19-09-18, 06:26 AM
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Irish and Welsh Guards
Hi friends
Have just added these to my collection. Following up on John Mulcahy excellent detailed response,would both these cloth titles be regarded as WWII era or pre war? The Welsh Guard San serif is 11cm x 1cm long,The Irish Guards San serif is 10cm x 1cm. Would that be any indication of pre or WWII era? Also following on from Johns comments , these are untouched, one would expect that if they were in the supply system they would of been rounded?Seems to have been a mix. Hopefully these are WWII era as I have checked other threads. All and any opinion welcomed. cheers Phill
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21-09-18, 07:23 AM
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Lovely things, but, very difficult to put a date upon, I think unless you have them from their original wearers, it will always be a struggle, often a case of looking at as many clear portraits of Guardsmen as you can find that are datable and clearly show the detail of the letters on the shoulder title.
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