help please ? - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

davec2 · #1 18-10-13, 12:57 PM

Hello gentlemen,

The first of two posts asking for help ?

I have tried to find photographs of the plate I am interested in, couldn't find one ! if it is in K.& K., I must have missed it ?

Basically, the owner wants me to re-loop it, neither of us know how many loops and where they would be positioned, also, I will be attempting to reproduce the orb and cross which is missing.

If I cannot manage it then the owner will not lose any sleep over it but it would be nice to complete the repair or in this case, refurbishment, so I also need to know what sort of cross would have been above the orb ??

Can anyone help please ??

Dave.

GriffMJ · #2 18-10-13, 01:03 PM

9th (East Norfolk) Regiment of Foot (Valise plate)?

You can see a button here ---> http://www.flickr.com/photos/hiddenhistory/8009371995/

davec2 · #3 18-10-13, 01:18 PM

Thanks Griff,

At least I now know why it isn't in K.& K. but I still have no answer to my questions

Dave.

GriffMJ · #4 18-10-13, 01:21 PM

Dave

It looks like the Standard QVC...... I have seen some examples on here recently. As to the fixings ... I cant help you there.

* This one looks like its been fixed in the past?

davec2 · #5 18-10-13, 01:27 PM

Cheers Griff,

It would certainly be easier to make, or try to make, a square crown in comparison the other shape ( three little appendages, N/E/W on the cross ) ???

Thanks for your time though, appreciated.

Dave.

davec2 · #6 18-10-13, 01:28 PM

OOPS too late !!

That's what I was hoping against ! more like the cross on the crown in my second question

Dave.

Peter Brydon · #7 18-10-13, 02:08 PM

Is it not a Regency Shako plate ?

P.B.

davec2 · #8 18-10-13, 02:16 PM

Hello Peter,

The owner described it as a Shako plate to me but when I looked in K.& K., the early 9th has a figure of Britannia with a scroll above her and the figures IX below.

The second lot of Regency Shako's did not show a 9th ?? perhaps it's time I contacted " confused.com " lol ???

Dave.

Neibelungen · #9 18-10-13, 02:24 PM

It's a standard centre company Albert shako plate (although introduced onto the late pattern bell-top shako's earlier)

Lugs are usually E/W as they interfere with the plume socket, but do find the occasional N/S

davec2 · #10 18-10-13, 02:32 PM

Thank you kind Sir,

I also like the shape of the cross, at this moment in time your photo is the one I will be using ??

Thanks to everyone.

Dave.

wright241 · #11 18-10-13, 02:55 PM

Dave,
Try KK page 61 (describes O/R ones) and 63 for some pics - but as you said the 9th version isn't there. Email on its way about silver gilt stuff once I sort out the boiler.....!!!
David

Quote:

Originally Posted by davec2

Hello gentlemen,

The first of two posts asking for help ?

I have tried to find photographs of the plate I am interested in, couldn't find one ! if it is in K.& K., I must have missed it ?

Basically, the owner wants me to re-loop it, neither of us know how many loops and where they would be positioned, also, I will be attempting to reproduce the orb and cross which is missing.

If I cannot manage it then the owner will not lose any sleep over it but it would be nice to complete the repair or in this case, refurbishment, so I also need to know what sort of cross would have been above the orb ??

Can anyone help please ??

Dave.

Neibelungen · #12 18-10-13, 04:06 PM

Keith Phillips http://www.historicaltextiles.com/Other_Products.html
does a brass reproduction of a 19th foot plate for the re-enactment group.

You should be able to buy one and attach the orb and crown to your sample

wright241 · #13 18-10-13, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neibelungen

Keith Phillips http://www.historicaltextiles.com/Other_Products.html
does a brass reproduction of a 19th foot plate for the re-enactment group.

You should be able to buy one and attach the orb and crown to your sample

Smart thinking. I was looking around for something that might do but no chance. Well done.

davec2 · #14 18-10-13, 07:28 PM

Thank you Neibelungen,

That is certainly a better way than me trying to make one, I will see what the owner has to say ??

thanks for everyone's input.

Dave.

49lassiepen · #15 18-10-13, 08:53 PM

Dave very interested in your thread regarding the repair of the Albert Shako I have 2 to the wilts regiment-1 is light company both with cross and orb missing I would be interested to see your repaired item Photo posted in gallery & album

Regards David