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Military or Civilian?
This photo was taken in Gibraltar and is dated 1916. I can't decide if the gent is military or civilian.
Anyone have an idea? Thanks Billyh |
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police?
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That was my main thought Alan, but I couldn't find any examples of Police uniform matching that in the photo when I searched the internet.
Billyh |
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The single metal epaulette worn on the right shoulder is strange, similar in style to some Fire Brigades but surely not in this case?
Simon. |
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I hadn't considered Fire Brigade. Perhaps it's a possibility.
Billyh |
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A strange shaped sun helmet as well. Not of military origin.
CB
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He is not a member of the Gibraltar Police.
Dave. |
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The absence of a collar number and constabulary insignia rules out police and yet the whistle chain feature is shared with one other public law and order institution that wore a similar style of uniform to the police. I think that he is probably a prison warder.
Last edited by Toby Purcell; 19-08-23 at 01:30 PM. |
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Thanks Toby. You could well be right.
Billyh |
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It fits if the chain is connected to a whistle, but of course it might also be a chain attached to a pocket watch in his breast pocket, in which case it would be back to the drawing board, Billy.
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Looking at the bulge below the chain it could well be that there is an "Acme" police whistle on the end of it.
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Yes I think you’re right, I can see it too now.
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No relation to this Ebay Seller but here is another example of the same Uniform being worn, again taken in Gibraltar.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204433238...3Avlp_homepage Simon. |
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Quote:
“More than 12,000 British and Irish male convicts were transported to the British penal colonies of Bermuda and Gibraltar between 1824-75. During the day convicts worked on the Royal Naval dockyards, mostly quarrying and transporting stone for building projects, and were shut up at night on prison hulks or on-shore barracks. The convict establishment included both transported felons from Britain and Ireland and those convicted locally in Gibraltar: mostly Spaniards, but also sailors, soldiers and sojourners from around the world. The Convict Prison was finally closed in 1875” There was also a Detention Barracks run by military prisons warders on Windmill Hill. It was demolished in 1962. **single or double shoulder chains of similar shape to that shown seem to have been a traditional marker of rank in Victorian era British fire brigades so there is a possibility that the fellows in the photographs are firemen wearing their dress uniform. Fire Brigades too tended to wear buttons with a royal crown insignia as the central feature. However, on the contrary side a double breasted jacket was almost ubiquitous for firemen. Last edited by Toby Purcell; 21-08-23 at 03:15 PM. |
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