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27-02-11, 07:51 PM
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18TH HUSSARS -LOWER VOID
Hi gent's. I spotted recently an 18th Hussars cap badge with a void at the bottom. I have my own example with the voided area shown in red. My question is:
Is this void necessary to be a better example. Or was it just a makers variation or certain period. Thanks 
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28-02-11, 02:48 PM
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Anyone got something on this or do I take it that it seen only on some and not required to be seen as a legit piece.
Simon.
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28-02-11, 02:51 PM
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28-02-11, 02:56 PM
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Yes, but I have also seen some in album's of what I assume are collectors that don't post fakes etc.
I just wanted to clear it up and if the case is the void has to be there, to start the search for one. Thanks Simon.
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28-02-11, 08:46 PM
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I always thought the pattern with 'Prince of Wales's' on the bottom scroll was an officers' version only and therefore ought to be die cast bronze. The one in the cavalry badges project is my other ranks 'Prince of Wales's Own' pattern.
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28-02-11, 08:52 PM
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No Keith, not the one in projects; but in albums on here. Some have no void. I wanted to confirm if this was a bad sign of not. I'm assuming the one in the projects is good, and has a void. hence the question on the non voided.
Simon.
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28-02-11, 09:11 PM
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Thanks Keith. What's your take on this one.
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28-02-11, 09:41 PM
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28-02-11, 09:44 PM
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Thanks Keith, much appreciated. I hope I don't have to put this on my "to find list". It's not needed for my overall collection as it wasn't a WW1 pattern.
Thanks again Simon.
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28-02-11, 10:11 PM
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Gaylor plate 4 page 159 has not Prince but Princess of Wales's as a 1904-05 brass, and princess of Wales's own as 1905-10 Malc
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28-02-11, 10:18 PM
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Last edited by Keith Blakeman; 28-02-11 at 11:03 PM.
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#12
31-03-17, 09:13 AM
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An old thread but I have these 2 to compare. No void but a quality typical of Edwardian manufacture. A thick, die struck badge but with the reverse die with solid detail (such as the back of the crown). Both in high-spec gliding metal rather than a cast brass. they came out of an old collection and have been lacquered to preserve the finish. I am in 2 minds as to remove it or not.
it's always difficult to know whether lugs or sliders should be correct but in this case the dates of use tie in with the long 1903/ shorter 1905 sliders. I would be interested to see an officers bronze/gilt version on blades which I suspect is voided.
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03-01-19, 02:31 PM
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As an aside the end-date of 1910 for the PWO badge which is given in several books is not correct. The change in title is often attributed to change in the Princess' title after her husband's Coronation but this was was not until June 1911.
To back this up this entry is from the regimental history entry for 1911: On October 16th His Majesty the King was graciously pleased to approve of the 18th (Victoria Mary, Princess of Wales' Own) Hussars, being in future designated 18th (Queen Mary's Own) Hussars. It seems likely that the PWO badge would have remained in use until after Oct 1911 as to have worn the QMO badge before Princess Alexandra had been crowned Queen and the regiment had re-titled in 1911, would have been most improper. https://docplayer.net/44552193-The-m...l-hussars.html Last edited by Alan O; 04-01-19 at 09:51 AM.
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