(RE) Cloth Grenade Badges

[davidwyke]

I'm sure that most (perhaps even all!) forum members will agree that the way to differentiate between METAL RA/RE grenade/scroll collar badges is simple: RA have 7 flames, RE have 9 flames (7 & additional 2 at the front).

My question is this, do all RE CLOTH grenade badges have 9 flames? Shown are a few examples and I've indicated what I assume them to be, but would be happy to be corrected:

top two - almost certain these are RE Sgt arm badges, note they do have 9 flames. (RA wear the gun badge of course).

3rd - I thought this was a RE Pioneer badge, probably worn above crossed axes. But, if it was worn exclusively by the RE wouldn't it have 2 extra flames? Perhaps it's actually a "bombers" proficiency badge.

4th - Is this a RE Sgt arm badge for No 1 dress? Again, only 7 flames.

Would appreciate any clarification/info on the above.

David

[54Bty]

The bottom 2 are possibly for the Grenadier Guards.

Marc

[Mike H]

Id agree with Marc bottom two are likely Grenadier Guards badges.

[grey_green_acorn]

More grenades! Top row Grenadier Guards.

Tim

[davidwyke]

Hi Chaps

Many thanks for the replies, much appreciated.

3-0 to Grenadier Guards so far! Are they also Sgt arm badges?

David

[grumpy]

Bottom two right are of course Great War TM and Bomber.

A word to the wise: a lot of private purchase items were made up by major outlets such as Gamages, and, being "old" they are difficult to pick. I think they used one single pattern for RE, Grenadiers, TM and Bomber, the latter two not necessarily coloured if old photos are to be relied on.

There is a great deal of useful info. on these two on the GWF, including dozens of photos of items, and items in wear.

[davidwyke]

Hi Grumpy

Many thanks for the input, will check out GWF.

I more or less ruled out TM & bomber because I thought they always had coloured flames but obviously not.

David