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So an Irish Militia Bn. Interesting. regards
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Greetings.
Endorsing previous comments....................a fascinating and extremely educational thread. Regards. Brian |
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Rather than start a new thread I thought the information contained in this excellent thread would be a great place to show and discuss the following items that follow on from recent discussions particularly by Toby.
Just acquired are these wonderful condition badges of a Sergeant Major of the 46th (South Devonshire) Regiment of Foot, consisting of his rank badge of a QVC over a set of double gold lace, 4-bar chevrons, his red backed gold lace embellished epaulettes and half a cap number. Here is what I think, and would love to hear others who can back this up or correct it. Double Lace Chevrons for Infantry stopped in 1868. Shoulder Straps of Crimean War period. Whole lot possibly dates from early 1850's to Late 1860's. regards
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Very nice Simon. Good to see how they were constructed too.
Regards, Keith |
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Andy
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Leave to carry on Sir please. |
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I will, eventually. regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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Thank you Stephen, it’s interesting to see that they appear well found and equipped with a more professional appearance (to my eyes) than some English Militia regiments of the same period. I think this is probably because of their regularly utilised policing role and the widespread embodiment of the militia as a whole during that time. I was intererested to learn that ultimately they lost their rifles status when made the 3rd Militia Battalion of the Leinster Regiment in July 1881.
Last edited by Toby Purcell; 14-03-20 at 10:12 AM. |
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regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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Another vote of thanks for your commentaries gents! Regards Mark
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Fabulous purchase.
Not only did double lace cease to be issued, but also lace on facing colour. Naturally the hard date represents a range of dates until existing badges on uniforms and existing (expensive) stocks ran out ........ difficult to envisage a sergeant major giving up such a splendid and immaculate badge without a fuss. In my opinion a few of these badges could still be on uniforms in 1875. |
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Thanks Grumpy, excellent further information.
regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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The crown badges were supplied from the RACD, but I do wonder if the stripes were supplied as lace on rolls and then made up by the Sergeant Master Tailor. Looking at them I suspect that was the case because each had to be sewn on to the regiments own facing colour cloth, including the bullion and coloured silks crown.
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This from the ledger: 1869 Chevrons old pattern double ½” lace [on facing color] Use up for Militia except red/purple faced, these to be converted for Line. |
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Thank you Grumpy, I did realise that it could go either way, but thought that the facing cloth backing was critical. However, it makes sense now, although I am surprised that the devices were not added to facing colour cloth in regimental tailor's workshops. Presumably that was because it was perceived by Horse Guards that only central provision would guarantee a uniform consistency, which is probably true.
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