Sussex VTC

[billy4294]

For views
Billyh

[Jelly Terror]

Billy,

Don't suppose there's any chance of cuff and cap badge close-ups, is there?

With thanks,

JT

[billy4294]

I'll try my best.
Billyh

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by billy4294

I'll try my best.
Billyh

Thanks very much.

Looks as though he is wearing the Service Dress, but is still badged to his VTC unit.

The VTC/VF experts will know, but I'm wondering if this photo might have been taken during the transitional period between the end of the VTC and the formation of the VF?

Thanks again,

JT

VTC.jpg

UNIFORMS OF THE VOLUNTEERS 1914-19
Author(s): Ernest J. Martin
Source: Journal of the Society for Army Historical Research , Autumn, 1938, Vol. 17, No. 67 (Autumn, 1938), pp. 163-170
Published by: Society for Army Historical Research

[billy4294]

Hope these are useful
Billyh

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by billy4294

Hope these are useful
Billyh

Got his cloth marksman badge on the cuff. Nice one.

JT

[billy4294]

First time I've seen that marksman style badge.
Billyh

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by billy4294

First time I've seen that marksman style badge.
Billyh

I think it’s actually Marksman 1st Class badge; the bullet minus the intertwined red ‘M’.

JT

[billy4294]

Thanks for the information
Billyh

[TWGB]

Billy, JT,

I am happy to be corrected, but I have always understood that just the bullet is "First Class Shot", which is a category under "Marksman".

Every volunteer, in the same way as the regulars and territorials, had their shooting graded; the top two tiers were then rewarded with a badge. This would be consistent with the Marksman's being a fancier, more conspicuous badge!

Of course, only the top tier was recognised in the regulars.

Best regards,

Tim

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by TWGB

Billy, JT,

I am happy to be corrected, but I have always understood that just the bullet is "First Class Shot", which is a category under "Marksman".

Every volunteer, in the same way as the regulars and territorials, had their shooting graded; the top two tiers were then rewarded with a badge. This would be consistent with the Marksman's being a fancier, more conspicuous badge!

Of course, only the top tier was recognised in the regulars.

Best regards,

Tim

Brilliant! Thanks for clarifying that, Tim.

JT

[billy4294]

Much appreciated Tim. As I said previously, it's the first time I have seen the bullet on a uniform.
More knowledge gained
Billyh

[Toby Purcell]

Originally Posted by Jelly Terror

Thanks very much.

Looks as though he is wearing the Service Dress, but is still badged to his VTC unit.

The VTC/VF experts will know, but I'm wondering if this photo might have been taken during the transitional period between the end of the VTC and the formation of the VF?

Thanks again,

JT

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UNIFORMS OF THE VOLUNTEERS 1914-19
Author(s): Ernest J. Martin
Source: Journal of the Society for Army Historical Research , Autumn, 1938, Vol. 17, No. 67 (Autumn, 1938), pp. 163-170
Published by: Society for Army Historical Research

The mitred cuff suggests it’s a VTC uniform (you might recall that there were “alternative” patterns) and so predates the VF I think.