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#16
15-03-23, 08:38 PM
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No they don't, you use a press and punch out the correct shaped holes a couple at a time and around the badge (see here ,https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=92526 OSD's seem to be more commonly cut out by hand but some are obviously punched as well.
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#17
16-03-23, 06:43 AM
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I’ve got a trial blank Royal West Kent which has holes drilled between the legs.
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#18
16-03-23, 09:20 AM
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Hi
I was once told that the tools for punching out the voided areas in badges could look like some medieval weapon with sharp projections to them. I'm also lead to believe that the main striking of the badge was achieved with a drop hammer but the blanking out of the flan could be done on a fly press. Way back, a friend was offered one of these by a firm that had been told that they could no longer use it for H & S reasons. The best bit was that it was still painted in dove grey with detail picked out in red. Markings were : A (crown) M for Air Ministry ( or Auntie Mary to those in the know....) and the date 1937. Used to make small parts for Spitfires, etc.? We can only guess....
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#19
16-03-23, 10:34 AM
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I think you'll find they are for another reason like making the tools for voiding the legs etc.
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#20
16-03-23, 11:29 AM
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Here are a couple of planchets. I do not know if they are ‘genuine’ but some cutting has been started on the crossed SMLE badge.
Tim
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#21
16-03-23, 01:32 PM
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Attached the RWK, that’s an awful lot of holes.
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#22
16-03-23, 01:42 PM
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Apologies, double post
Last edited by Keith Blakeman; 16-03-23 at 02:35 PM.
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#23
16-03-23, 01:55 PM
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There may be 6 or more punching operations to get all the voids in the right places , the initial stamping is just the start , the crossed rifles would probably be stamped out in one go as the signalers badge was as there's no internal voiding .
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#24
16-03-23, 03:23 PM
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Here you can see the different tools to produce a badge in different die struck steps .....
http://www.northirishhorse.com.au/NI...dge%20die.html Of course the countour and voidings of badges manufactured in hundres or thousands are not cut out by hand ..... Regards Markus
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#25
16-03-23, 03:54 PM
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Looks like a fairly modern set that was up for sale a few years ago
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#26
16-03-23, 04:05 PM
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Yes, "fairly" modern, i have seen some original tools for the production of (voided) german combat badges of WW2 and they are quiet similar. The dies for the Irish Horse still shows the KC, so i guess this tools were used before 1955...
Regards Markus
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#27
16-03-23, 04:39 PM
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More likely to be for reproduction/fake badges made not to long ago
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#28
16-03-23, 08:19 PM
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Indeed the Irish Horse die is a fairly modern ‘fake die’. The attached badge is what that particular die would produce.
Hopefully no one minds but I’ve reversed the die image and enlarged to make the comparison more possible.
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#30
16-03-23, 09:17 PM
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The squish faced dragon Mons is straight out the Marsh catalogue and the Lambourne mark itself is not right lacking the superscript (and often underscored) ‘o’.
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