help to id a few badges please - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

badgecollector · #1 22-01-10, 02:25 AM

hi guys
some questions to be answered if possible
1) what is the first badge? a collar? what period?
2) is this manchester a good one? what period?
3) what is this rose? it has a single screw post to rear made by gaunt london
4) is this shropshire a good one? what period?
thanks to all in advance
bc

slick_mick · #2 22-01-10, 02:57 AM

Bradley - I suggest you invest in some British badge books since you are always asking for badges to be ID'ed - Kipling and King is a very good one .

oc14 · #3 22-01-10, 06:40 AM

The white rose badge is a pre WW2 Formation badge for the 49th (West Riding) Infantry Division. During WW2 it was replaced by the Polar Bear cloth patch. Hope that helps

OC14

davec2 · #4 22-01-10, 10:57 AM

Hello bc,

The knot is a collar badge and could well be to the 3rd and 4th Battalions ( Militia ) to the North Staffordshire regiment ' Colin Churchill Fig 1567 '.

This is described as an ' error ' pattern, from the 1890's, with the plumes and motto in gilding metal and the coronet and knot in white metal, some times worn by Officers' in silver and gilt, I could of course be wrong ????

The other two are the Manchester regiment and the Shropshire Yeomanry ( possibly post 1950 ), I hope this helps.......

Dave.

badgecollector · #5 22-01-10, 12:01 PM

thanks guys
this is a great help and i appreciate your help and feedback
bc

#6 22-01-10, 01:49 PM

http://www.britisharmedforces.org/pa...ge_gallery.htm

heres a good place to

regards lee

Peter Brydon · #7 22-01-10, 02:15 PM

Lee,
The site shows a number of WW1 VTC badges as OTC items, Also shows the spurious bi metal Liverpool Scottish - dosnt fill one with confidence.

P.B.

wright241 · #8 22-01-10, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgecollector

hi guys
some questions to be answered if possible
1) what is the first badge? a collar? what period?
2) is this manchester a good one? what period?
3) what is this rose? it has a single screw post to rear made by gaunt london
4) is this shropshire a good one? what period?
thanks to all in advance
bc

Can you let me know what the diameter of the rose is please. tks

badgecollector · #9 22-01-10, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wright241

Can you let me know what the diameter of the rose is please. tks

hi
the rose diameter is 30mm. i thought it may have been south african because of the screw back? but happy to hear it could be british formation badge
bc

wright241 · #10 23-01-10, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgecollector

hi
the rose diameter is 30mm. i thought it may have been south african because of the screw back? but happy to hear it could be british formation badge
bc

Thanks bc. david

41st · #11 23-01-10, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lee58uk

http://www.britisharmedforces.org/pa...ge_gallery.htm

heres a good place to

regards lee

In fact this is a very bad place to go.
Just looking at the yeomanry section I can say that all the Welsh units shown are fake.

NEMO · #12 23-01-10, 04:05 PM

Further to previous replies hes a photo of the white rose badge in use .
Photo shows :
pte William Walker who lived in the village of Haworth West Yorkshire
who served in the:

6th bat. Duke of Wellingtons
147th brigade
49th Westriding Div.

NEMO · #13 23-01-10, 04:06 PM

Close up of the white metal rose badge worn as a formaton sign , worn just below the brass shoulder title ` D/W` ,

badgecollector · #14 23-01-10, 09:47 PM

thanks nemo
great photo. appreciate your help
bc

daverpol · #15 24-01-10, 03:24 PM

Item no. 3, Rose with screw fixing.

This is the side rosette as used on British police helmets.

The military version would have either a ring or hook attached to hold the chin chain.

http://www.pmcc-club.co.uk/museum/di...lbum=272&pos=3

http://www.pmcc-club.co.uk/museum/di...at=41&pos=-901