25th Dragoons - no swords ?

[25THDPT]

Hi, did anyone see this on eBay item number 171940485697 (Military Army Badges various regiments pre 1975 Hussars Lancers 25th Dragoons) Finished now but can still be seen. In with the staybrights is a brass stamped out 25th Dragoons badge with no swords and odd rear fittings that are hard to see on pic. Is it a fantasy badge as it is not in Peters war raised book.

[2747andy]

I think it could be the overlaid part of an NCO's sleeve badge, perhaps one of Fig. 66-69?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Military-A...p2047675.l2557

Andy

[Keith Blakeman]

Originally Posted by 25THDPT

Hi, did anyone see this on eBay item number 171940485697 (Military Army Badges various regiments pre 1975 Hussars Lancers 25th Dragoons) Finished now but can still be seen. In with the staybrights is a brass stamped out 25th Dragoons badge with no swords and odd rear fittings that are hard to see on pic. Is it a fantasy badge as it is not in Peters war raised book.

It's the overlay from a reproduction badge. On genuine badges there aren't the fillets between the XXV and the crown, they are two seperate items. I managed by accident to seperate the two parts of a reproduction once by soaking it in Nitromors, the badge was painted and I was trying to clean it up so they must be glued together rather than briased.

[Frank Kelley]

You managed by "accident" with paint remover?

Originally Posted by Keith Blakeman

It's the overlay from a reproduction badge. On genuine badges there aren't the fillets between the XXV and the crown, they are two seperate items. I managed by accident to seperate the two parts of a reproduction once by soaking it in Nitromors, the badge was painted and I was trying to clean it up so they must be glued together rather than briased.

[Keith Blakeman]

Originally Posted by Frank Kelley

You managed by "accident" with paint remover?

Honest! It was the last thing I was expecting.

[Rob Miller]

I had this out of a box of odds at a car boot sale recently, its 24mm wide 27mm high, is it tat?

Rob

[49lassiepen]

not in Peter Seamans book I would suspect could well be tat
David

[Marcus H]

Originally Posted by Rob Miller

I had this out of a box of odds at a car boot sale recently, its 24mm wide 27mm high, is it tat?

Rob

Hi Rob,

This is the unfinished brass overlay of the comprised parts of the 25D badge, and this example is trying to resemble the Gaunt design; however, it's contemporary tat.

Best,

Marcus

Note: there do exist fakes with this overlay that have the correct voided segments and the white-metal reverse of the badge almost matches the original Gaunt counterparts. That is, with the exception of the slider and crown that are the most distinctive faults, and an evident flaw under the "25th" along the scroll bottom edge, too. There's a lot more, but without pics in support I probably wouldn't make much sense.