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Old 18-05-19, 02:47 PM
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Default Hand made ID tag bracelet for ID

Hi,
Can anyone ID this hand made ID Tag and what regiment it might be.

Inscription says 'J.E.M. Pierson C.E. 3rd Att. 1st N.N.'

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Old 18-05-19, 03:06 PM
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J E M Pierson, (Church of England) 3rd Battalion Northamptonshire Regiment attached to 1st Battalion Northamptonshire Regiment.

Possibly a Lieutenant JEM Pierson of 1st Bn.
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Old 18-05-19, 03:09 PM
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First Name:
J E M
Surname:
Pierson
Report Date:
02/08/1916
Information:
Listed as "Wounded" on the Casualty List issued by the War Office.
Further Information:
This man was entitled to wear a "Wound Stripe" as authorised under Army Order 204 of 6th July 1916. The terms of this award being met by their naming in this list.
Rank:
Lieutenant
Service:
British Army
Primary Unit:
Northamptonshire Regiment
Archive Reference:
DT03081916

First Name:
J E M
Surname:
Pierson
Rank:
Lieutenant
Service:
British Army
Primary Unit:
Northamptonshire Regiment
Secondary Unit:
3rd Battalion
Archive Reference:
1916 Army List
UK Army List 1916


First Name:
J E M
Surname:
Pierson
Nationality:
British
Information:
(Empld. North'n R.)
Further Information:
Special Reserve of Officers,
Rank:
Captain
Gallantry Awards:
Military Cross
Instituted on 28th December 1914 the Military Cross (M.C.) is the third level military decoration awarded to Officers.

This decoration was awarded to J E M Pierson for an act or acts of exemplary gallantry during active operations against the enemy.

Service:
British Army
Regiment:
Northamptonshire Regiment
Battalion:
3rd Battalion (Reserve)
Seniority Date:
11/02/1917


First Name:
J E M
Surname:
Pierson
Rank:
Lieutenant
Service:
British Army
Primary Unit:
Northamptonshire Regiment
Secondary Unit:
1st Battalion
Archive Reference:
1916 Army List
Seniority Date:
14/05/1915
UK Army List 1916



First Name:
John Eric Macdonald
Surname:
Pierson
Rank:
Lieutenant
Rank (2nd):
Acting Captain
Gallantry Awards:
Military Cross
Gazette Info:
Gazette No. 30064. Military Cross. His Majesty the KING has been graciously pleased to confer the Military Cross on the officer in recognition of their gallantry and devotion to duty in the field. For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty during a raid on the enemy's trenches. He, accompanied by another officer, with great personal courage reorganised the raiding party under very heavy fire. Later, he effected a successful withdrawal under the most trying conditions.
Gazette Date:
11/05/1917
Gazette Page:
4591
Service:
British Army
Regiment:
Special Reserve
Battalion:
Northamptonshire Regiment
Collection:
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Old 18-05-19, 03:23 PM
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Great thanks Leigh, thats a load of information
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Old 18-05-19, 03:29 PM
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Ne problema - that's an interesting little item that Lt Pierson might have been wearing when he earned his Military Cross (though presumably he shouldn't have been, on a trench raid) and when wounded.
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Old 18-05-19, 03:42 PM
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I'm a complete novice at this but did a Google search , got a couple of results but nowhere near as much information as above.

Just to show that there can be information about that even amateurs can find.

"SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 21 AUGUST, 1917. 8631

North'n R.—. Lt. J. E. M. Pierson, M.C., Spec. Res. Bn., to be actg. Capt. whilst comdg. a Co. 15th July 1917.

SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 15 DECEMBER, 1920. 12373

3rd North'n. R.—Capts., and retain the rank of Capt.: — R. P. Needham. J. E. M. Pierson, M.C. "
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Old 18-05-19, 03:51 PM
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Yes, a good googling can usually throw up detail on British army officers, London Gazette entries etc, I've found a fair amount of info that way on officers whose caps or berets etc I've aquired.
An online regimental history for 1 NN would be good to find.
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Old 18-05-19, 05:27 PM
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His medal index card.
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Looks like the work of a semi-professional.

I've seen them with the "E.P.N.S." marking and wondered why, until I realised that I found much the same markings on the bowls of spoons.....

In other words, they must have "uplifted" a spoon and had it engraved. Quite obvious as it is already oval in shape and made of a silvery looking metal....
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Old 28-05-19, 10:43 AM
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I'm inclined to think they were commercially available items as i have one very similar ,also the chain is normally of the type found on pocket watches and with the explosion of wrist watch wearers during ww1 they had to find a use for all the pocket watch chains.

they also come in aluminium as illustrated by the pic of a bracelet that belonged to a Grimsby chum who then went on to become commisioned into the Sherwood Foresters and ended as a pilot in the RAF.

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Old 28-05-19, 03:44 PM
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I'm inclined to think they were commercially available items as i have one very similar ,also the chain is normally of the type found on pocket watches and with the explosion of wrist watch wearers during ww1 they had to find a use for all the pocket watch chains.

they also come in aluminium as illustrated by the pic of a bracelet that belonged to a Grimsby chum who then went on to become commisioned into the Sherwood Foresters and ended as a pilot in the RAF.

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Thanks for the info, mine matches the one in the advert.

Not sure what you think of yours but they don't seem very well made, more like something you would knock up in your garage.
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