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09-09-08, 11:00 PM
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RWF, 1stWW, Wolseley Helmets, auctioned
From that notorious auction site. A nice example of a Wolseley helmet with cloth badges to the RWF(?), purported to be 1stWW(?). Interesting item nonetheless.
 Jo http://cgi.ebay.com/Wolseley-pith-wi...QQcmdZViewItem
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#2
10-09-08, 03:19 PM
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I saw this helmet too. I dont know if those red diamonds on each side have anything to do with the RWF. A lot of regiments used dark blue welts on the puggaree. But whatever it is, it looks like a good authentic example.
CB
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10-09-08, 04:37 PM
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RWF Helmet
And you didn't think I would have noticed?
Sadly however, nothing to do with the RWF as far as I know. I seem to recall that a blue band above the puggari indicates Royal Navy. Further I've got nothing in my archive material that appears to corroborate a red flash as worn on the foreign service helmet. Hwyl, Kevin
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10-09-08, 05:01 PM
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Are we that surprised, it is E --- after all
P.B.
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10-09-08, 05:04 PM
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About the seller.
Hi guys, if you check this seller's other items, he has many different articles from many countries. So, maybe he is not as knowledgeable as he could be on this particular subject and, he relied on informations coming from a friend of a friend of a friend......
This is my view on this. Jo
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10-09-08, 06:23 PM
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Voltigeur,,
Your thoughts on the sellers description are admirable, but it might also be that by describing the items as being to a highly collectable regiment he hoped to increase the sale price. ( sorry cynicism comes with age ) Peter
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10-09-08, 07:46 PM
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.....and I agree with you. This guy could be a con artist.
Jo
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#8
11-09-08, 01:56 PM
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not a very good picture, but is seem perhaps a flash on the helmet
on the internet sit of the 1bat of royal welch fus... http://www.theroyalwelsh.org.uk/1bn/...d=9&img=2&nm=2  on this site the actual cap badge of officiers seem to be only the "ICH DIEN" and for OR the "grenade" with withe HACKLE .... officers dont had the "grenade" too ?? (english army is very difficult to understand for me  ....)
Last edited by jeanpit-frenchy; 11-09-08 at 02:06 PM.
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11-09-08, 01:59 PM
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If this can be proven to be WW1 and its Royal Navy its actually worth more. So I dont think its deception on the part of the seller.
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#10
11-09-08, 02:36 PM
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the pith helmet is late 1920s early 1930s and was worn by both Royal Navy and the RAF as they also had a blue band to the helmet can be seen in photos in the Far East in WW2
Last edited by peter616; 11-09-08 at 02:46 PM.
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13-09-08, 11:04 PM
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RWF Wolseley Helmet,the final chapter.
Hi guys, to close the chapter on the sale of this helmet, here's the final price from the infamous auction. Hopefully he did not spend the rent money on this, if it's a dud.
 Jo http://cgi.ebay.com/Wolseley-pith-wi...QQcmdZViewItem
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"There truly exists but one perfect order: that of cemeteries. The dead never complain and they enjoy their equality in silence." - “There are things we know that we know,” “There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.” Donald Rumsfeld, before the Iraqi Invasion,2003. Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese.
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#12
14-09-08, 11:18 PM
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16-12-08, 08:41 PM
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RWF Puggaree flash
I have a recollection from my youth in Caernarfon, where I used to haunt the Museum, that the RWF wore a red diamond on the puggaree, on which was a Dragon in white, with RWF underneath, also in white...
Any Cofis here who can go and have a look? 
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#14
17-12-08, 07:36 AM
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Just a small point, it's the BRITISH army and the Royal WELCH Fusiliers are WELSH.
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17-12-08, 11:19 AM
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As an Army Cadet in the 1960's, I wore an O/R's cap badge with the Welch spelling, given to me by a former officer of the 7th Bn, who wore it during WW1, when on patrol (the officers' bronze pattern being attractive to enemy marksmen!) The final a/a version of the RWF badge was also with the Welch spelling.
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