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Old 05-03-24, 04:14 PM
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Default Queens RWS collar

Slightly confused by Churchills book on this one. Unless I have read it wrong then this badge was issued in 1897 with the thicker scroll, then replaced in 1898 by the type with the curly scroll. Surely this badge would not have a 1 or 2 year life? Any Queen's collectors out there to confirm the dates when it was worn. Am I correct?
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Old 05-03-24, 04:25 PM
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John,
Churchill gives me fits as well. Not exactly clear on timelines and pictures are marginal sometimes. The way I read it that badge was in use 1882 to 1897. The change to the next badge was authorized in 1894 but they wanted to use existing stocks first which was expected to take 3 years.

Not a QRWS expert at all, just trying to decipher Churchillese for a fellow collector.

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Old 05-03-24, 04:27 PM
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Your badge looks like a figure 36 to me. Is it a fig 37 or 38?
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Old 05-03-24, 04:36 PM
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Hi Todd,
Its 37 0r 38, pattern No9980a which according to Churchill was authorised on Dec 14th 1897 (Figure 6 is the previous with the smaller thinner scroll).
Very confusing!
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Old 05-03-24, 09:28 PM
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John,

I see the distinction now with the scroll.
I guess the “short” timer badges would have some length of service because of lags in time due to design, acceptance, depletion of stocks, manufacturing, etc.

Makes it interesting for us I reckon.

Hopefully you will get an answer here soon.

T
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Old 05-03-24, 11:06 PM
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Being blackened brass I would assume it to be a 2nd Volunteer collar and possibly a field service cap badge.
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Old 06-03-24, 06:39 PM
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Thanks Both.
Keith, of course I should have spotted it was blackened and read Churchill further where he shows it is a 2nd Vol Bn collar as you suggest. Surprised such a small badge was worn on the field service cap. Thank you for sorting this badges identity out for me.
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Old 06-03-24, 06:43 PM
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Until full sized cap badges were designed the collars were often worn in the FSC so they were the same badge.
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