Household Cavalry Regiment (from 1992 to present)

[grenadierguardsman]

Just been looking at Dead Spartan Militaria top of page 2. Another just sold as Coldstream Guards, with the apostrophe also.
Andy

[3748 Hussar]

Andy,

Thats a Royal horse guards , shame about his photo skills.

3748 Hussar

Originally Posted by grenadierguardsman

Just been looking at Dead Spartan Militaria top of page 2. Another just sold as Coldstream Guards, with the apostrophe also.
Andy

[grenadierguardsman]

Originally Posted by 3748 Hussar

Andy,

Thats a Royal horse guards , shame about his photo skills.

3748 Hussar

Yes i know it is, hence me bringing it up. With the apostrophe.....
Andy

[3748 Hussar]

Andy,

Theres more than just the apostrophe !!!! Just in case they fall off !!!


3748 Hussar

Originally Posted by grenadierguardsman

Yes i know it is, hence me bringing it up. With the apostrophe.....
Andy

[grenadierguardsman]

Originally Posted by Toby Purcell

My understanding from all reference material is that the Coldstream Guards version of this design of insignia is all in white metal, Andy, whereas for the Royal Horse Guards version the garter part is gilded.

Looking at the illustrations from the dress regulations of 1900 and 1904, both, the Life Guards and the Royal Horse Guards garter stars clearly show the apostrophe.

Toby ive just checked with a mate, he was a WO2. His cap star is like Alex's, white metal main part and garter strap gilding metal. He has 4 cap stars, all the same.
Andy

[Toby Purcell]

Originally Posted by grenadierguardsman

Toby ive just checked with a mate, he was a WO2. His cap star is like Alex's, white metal main part and garter strap gilding metal. He has 4 cap stars, all the same.
Andy

Thank you Andy, that’s really useful information. I don’t have a CG WO’s cap star and all the descriptions in references like K&K, John Gaylor, Edwards, etc. refer only to white metal with no mention of gilt, so hence my misunderstanding.

It begs the question of how the CG WO and RHG Officers garter star can be told apart. If not by careful measurement of the dimensions (?) then presumably only by the quality of manufacture.

[Alex Rice]

Hi All
Thanks for all the observations. CG or RHG doesn't matter to me either way. Would have been nice if it was an RHG but still happy with the badge!
Cheers,
Alex

[3748 Hussar]

Alex,

Your CG officers badge is a quality badge , thanks for sharing . I believe a few people have learnt a thing or two .

*Note As well as Dead spartan , Lew Shotton has sold an RHG officers badge as a CG badge

3748 Hussar

Originally Posted by Alex Rice

Hi All
Thanks for all the observations. CG or RHG doesn't matter to me either way. Would have been nice if it was an RHG but still happy with the badge!
Cheers,
Alex

[grenadierguardsman]

Originally Posted by Alex Rice

Hi All
Thanks for all the observations. CG or RHG doesn't matter to me either way. Would have been nice if it was an RHG but still happy with the badge!
Cheers,
Alex

Alex the Coldstream Guards WO's cap star you show, is a quality one indeed.
Andy

[Toby Purcell]

I’ve just learned that the exact same badge appeared on the rear of the Coldstream Guards officers bearskin cap when bearskins were adopted by the regiment, for the first time, in 1835. Apparently the badge was around 3x3”.

Interestingly there is a specific reason why the badge was shared by the RHG and the CG. Both regiments were comprised of soldiers who had previously been a part of Cromwell’s New Model Army and were a part of the force that accompanied Lord Monck in his march South in 1660 to pledge his renewed loyalty to the King following the restoration of the monarchy. In recognition of this the King presented Monck with the Order of the Garter in May of that year, and it’s emblem was in turn made an emblem of the two regiments of Guards that he brought with him, one Horse and one Foot. So hence the sharing of the Garter Star.

[grenadierguardsman]

Originally Posted by Toby Purcell

I’ve just learned that the exact same badge appeared on the rear of the Coldstream Guards officers bearskin cap when bearskins were adopted by the regiment, for the first time, in 1835. Apparently the badge was around 3x3”.

Interestingly there is a specific reason why the badge was shared by the RHG and the CG. Both regiments were comprised of soldiers who had previously been a part of Cromwell’s New Model Army and were a part of the force that accompanied Lord Monk in his march South in 1660 to pledge his renewed loyalty to the King following the restoration of the monarchy. In recognition of this the King presented Monk with the Order of the Garter in May of that year, and it’s emblem was in turn made an emblem of the two regiments of Guards that he brought with him, one Horse and one Foot. So hence the sharing of the Garter Star.

Nice bit of info there Toby, thanks.
Andy

[3748 Hussar]

Morning All ,

Something thats bugging me why would this Coldstream guards belt buckle have an apostrophe.....

3748 Hussar

[grenadierguardsman]

Originally Posted by 3748 Hussar

Morning All ,

Something thats bugging me why would this Coldstream guards belt buckle have an apostrophe.....

3748 Hussar

Thats a good point.....
Andy

[Luke H]

Did RHG wear that design on their belts? If so could we have a RHG centre married up to a CG outer in a mistaken (but forgivable) attempt at a match.

Not my area of course but just a thought.

[3748 Hussar]

More of a life guards style star and garter .

?????

3748 Hussar