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The photograph looks as if he has perhaps re-enlisted and is wearing everything that he is entitled to wear in a one off studio portrait. |
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Second photograph, could the letters on the hat and collar be "CL" and perhaps indicate "Canadian Legion", if so he could possibly be in a uniformed attendant role such as undertaken by members of the Corps of Commissionaires. Just a suggestion.....
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And a good one.
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CB, are you 100% certain?. As far as I know there is no known use of this badge in the inter-war period. No disrespect intended.
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Re above:
“When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.” SH |
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Trying to date this one is difficult with the tunic and cap suggesting 1930s but the belt and swagger cane suggesting pre WW1. Whilst the The qualification suggests VB, pre-war TF or cadet. The dark stripes with a badge on them is really odd.
Could this be a theatre costume for a play? |
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Could the belt and stick be studio props?
Obviously that still leaves dating anomalies between the cap and qualifications etc. as identified by others. The badge does look like a coat of arms. Probably the Royal coat of arms but are there any other contenders (Cadets etc.?) who perhaps wore a different coat of arms in what appears to be either GM/WM? Not suggesting this is the answer but from memory the City of London School OTC wore a BB coat of arms but I’m unsure if period would fit etc. obviously finish does not. As Alan points out not knowing the date is a significant handicap here. The last, similar, poser turned out to be a quite obscure RV (Cambridge University Rifle Volunteer Corps). Like in that pic the sitter here wears the uniform well so I’d be surprised if dress-up. |
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I agree about the uniform: just look at the precision of those puttees!
He is not any Junior or Senior Division OTC that I recognise as the badge just does not match any of the known patterns. |
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Could it be a newly organized unit of some sort that did not have a cap badge yet, resorting to the Royal Arms as a temporary measure?
CB
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The cap is making me ponder as it doesn't seem to be usual British Army type. I am hazarding a guess that CL could refer to "Church Lads".
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The tunic with its stand collar and lack of epaulettes is not British either. My guess is that it's some sort of civilian uniform post-war. There were a few organisation emplying ex-servicemen as doormen, commissionaires etc.
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Last edited by Toby Purcell; 16-05-22 at 11:40 AM. |
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The first photo, possibly 'Army Technical School (Boys)' (ATS). During the war 'apprentices' wore their own corps badges e.g. RAOC, RASC and later REME when that corps was formed in 1942. I don't know exactly when it happened but at the end of the war or shortly after and as the ATS was part of the GSC, that badge was adopted and worn by all 'apprentices'. In 1947 the title changed to 'Army Apprentices School' (AAS) and the AAS cap badge was adopted.
The old SD was still being issued in the early 1960's, but I have never seen any photo with an 'apprentice' wearing putties. the rank chevrons would be correct for ATS, as they changed to black on red for AAS. The apprentice ranks of A/T/CSM and A/T/RSM were three chevrons with the RQMS or GSC badge as shown in the pic. The swagger stick is a studio prop, but apprentices of the time did wear the Slade Wallis white belt. I'm not sure if collars were worn with the GSC badge, but they certainly were with AAS. The star above the chevrons I know not. Just my thoughts that might open up another line for discussion. |
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Last edited by Toby Purcell; 17-05-22 at 03:09 PM. |
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