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WW1 Manchester Rgt / KLR to sort out
I have signed on here in the hope you can help me understand my grandfather's WW1 story from medals, badge/brooch, WW1 photo postcard and attestation record which suggests to me he signed up for the Manchester Regiment in 1915 though his photo postcard and medals tell me he was Corporal in the Kings Liverpool Regiment in 1918. As regards the Manchester regiment I have what I thought was a cap badge, but being solid silver may be a large brooch, and the part of his attestation which has one number crossed out and a KLR bit added with a service number thats on his medals, and then that crossed out and yet another service number written. He lived in Manchester at the time.
So is this a cap badge or a brooch? He was later in a British Legion band so wondered if he was in a regimental band and got an extra shiny badge. And what about the three different service numbers on the attestation, the last one very faint? I thought you got a number and it stayed with you. Any help with understanding this very welcome, I am a novice at such things. |
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Hello Cheshire Steve, welcome to the Forum. Your account is active and open for posts.
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Regtl numbers were changed when the TF battalions were allocated new numbers circa 1916 to standardise numbers across the army.
The badge is a mufti badge worn on the lapel. Being silver it was bought commercially. They are also called sweethearts on the supposition that they were worn by wives and girlfriends. |
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Steve,
Arthur Richardson enlisted on 10.11.1915 in one of the service battlaions of the Manchester Regt with No. 32014. He didnt proceed overseas to join them but remained in one of the Depot Bn.'s. He transferred to the Kings Liverpool Regiment as no. 64453 and served overseas with the and so thats why his WW1 Pair are named to the Kings. He later served in a Labour Coy before being transferred to the Labour |Corps as 438212. The badge is a Hallmarked silver sweetheart badge. regards
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Thanks very much. That is a great advance on what I previously knew. I didn't realise people jumped around between regiments and got different army numbers, probably because my father and mother always kept the same numbers throughout WW2. The 438212 was also illegible on the document I found, so that's great to know.
He certainly did have a sweetheart, and married her in 1919, so no doubt the silver brooch was hers. So I suppose the next thing is to find with which battalion, and when, and hence where, he served with the Kings Liverpool Regiment. A photo postcard when he was away in April 1918 seems to show an all white-metal KLR cap badge, which I have read is 7th or 9th Battalion. But you have given me a good basis to work from. Steve |
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Steve ,
Can you please say exactly what is engraved on the rims of his WW1 medals ? Thanks P.B.
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