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Old 07-07-18, 10:41 AM
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Default Rifle Brigade?

A question for the forum.

This dark green felt cap has two black composite buttons. The buttons show a strung bugle with Kings crown, no maker. No cap badge or holes-marks where a badge has been.

Is this Rifle Brigade?

What period?

Is the badge missing, and what badge was worn? A boss maybe?

Thank you for looking and answering my questions, Keith
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Old 07-07-18, 11:11 AM
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Hello Keith

Unfortunately I don't think you will be able to learn much from the buttons on this headdress. The pattern shown was indeed worn at times by the Rifle Brigade but it was also worn by the King's Royal Rifle Corps.

It is also a somewhat 'generic' pattern worn by many rifle units over the years, some volunteer, some 'colonial' and so on. It is very difficult to pin down an end user based just on this pattern of button (especially when there is no backmark which can sometimes give a clue).

Roger
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Old 07-07-18, 11:43 AM
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Roger, thank you.

Could the cap have been worn without a badge?

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Old 08-07-18, 11:56 AM
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Looks as if there is a hole for a boss or is it the light ?
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Old 08-07-18, 12:22 PM
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Looks as if there is a hole for a boss or is it the light ?
A pair of horizontal holes, or just an off centre moth hole? One of Mike Chappell's books on BD has a painting of a KRRC officer wearing a dark green CFSC with boss as I recall. Not that it means that ORs wore the boss rather than cap or collar badge.
Edit: Checked British Battledress 1937-61, shows a 2 KRRC captain, Italy, 1943, wearing the CFSC with black buttons and silver bugle on red cord boss.

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Old 09-07-18, 08:35 AM
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Looks as if there is a hole for a boss or is it the light ?
It is a small moth hole.

I cannot find holes for badge or stitch marks for a boss.

Note the three different fabrics used to line the cap?

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Old 10-07-18, 10:21 AM
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Is there a very small hole apart from the moth hole ? It could indicate the boss badge was on wires rather than a screw post.
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I think it probably had a boss at the front, I cannot find a hole for the wires but there is a faint circular shape where a boss would have been.

So does this mean it is either KRRC or RB?

And the big question, has anyone a spare boss to sell me please?

Thank you, Keith
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I think it probably had a boss at the front, I cannot find a hole for the wires but there is a faint circular shape where a boss would have been.

So does this mean it is either KRRC or RB?

And the big question, has anyone a spare boss to sell me please?

Thank you, Keith
"British Battledress 1937-61", shows a 2 KRRC captain, Italy, 1943, wearing the CFSC with black buttons and silver bugle on red cord boss.
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