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Scots Guards ???
Just got this badge in the post today. Ive never had a badge so thinly made before ? The detailing isn't that bad and its two piece, with three 16mm long lugs. Its 66mm/66mm. Opinions please.
Andy
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Leave to carry on Sir please. Last edited by grenadierguardsman; 05-10-18 at 08:17 PM. |
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Nice looking badge !
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No its not. Its about 2mm thin so bendy, I've not seen anything like it. Its on its way back to where it come from.
Andy
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Andy,
Well that is fascinating! It looks well made in the photos. Kr Chay |
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Andy,
I don’t know anything about this type of badge however just looking at the back I’d say it’s not modern construction. Long brass loops without feet that are nicely toned, the central backing plate appears a precise fit with notches for the loops. The inner loops look nice too with a correct size pin which also looks old. It all seems to fit together nicely and all the parts appear to have genuine age rather than being mucked about with. From the front the central device looks very well stuck, good detailing and no die flaws. Thin or not nothing about it construction or appearance looks bad to me. If it had been mine I’d have kept it, but I do understand how unsettling a thin/light badge feels! Cheers, Luke |
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I think it looks like a very nice badge but I have my doubts that it is SG? Maybe one of the Volunteer Battalions of the Royal Scots?
Cheers, Alex |
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Has anyone come across a badge that is 2mm thin ?
Andy
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Just measured (as best I can) a genuine Connaught Rangers and 1st pattern REME I had close to hand. Both are 1mm thick/thin.
Luke Last edited by Luke H; 07-10-18 at 07:57 PM. Reason: Just to clarify I am referring to the gauge of the metal |
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You mean the badge is 2mm thick in profile, rather than the thickness of the metal itself is 2mm?
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The thickness of the metal is 2nn.
Andy
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Leigh your right, the profile. It was starting to rust also.
Andy
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The reason it’s so thin might well be because it’s the badge from a Royal Scots Dirk belt plate. The officers pattern had an enamel inset, but the staff sergeant’s pattern did not. Such badges invariably had three, or four loops, and were thin so that they sit as flat as possible on the plate. They are strengthened by the rigidity of the brass dirk belt plate itself. Alternatively the long loops might relate to a bandsman’s music case (aka pouch), which also offers a stout backing. All the above said, your badge has more the dimensions of the headdress badge rather than the plate badge, especially around the St Andrew’s Cross part. The thinness though to me suggests that it is a plate, or pouch badge of some kind.
Last edited by Toby Purcell; 08-10-18 at 03:29 PM. |
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16mm long lugs ?
Andy
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Andy,
Have a look at this image of the Royal Scots Association Pipe Band. http://www.derekcrowe.com/photos.aspx?id=1357 Pipers are wearing a badge as/on a kilt pin. Is this a practice of the Royal Scots Pipes and Drums when they existed?? Tim
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Long lugs would certainly be needed to go through a bandsman’s music case flap Andy, but I accept would seem overly long for a belt plate. My comments that such a thin badge probably had a stout backing, stand though.
Last edited by Toby Purcell; 09-10-18 at 09:10 AM. |
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