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Old 05-10-18, 01:15 PM
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With Chris' help we have managed to identify that the silver anodized pipers collar badges for no 1 dress (Horizontal) were first authorized for wear on Dec 9th, 1963 (almost 10 years after first sealing)

The reasons stated for the approval were; the regiments pipers had a tradition of wearing silver (WM) collar badges, the dies were existing and the amount needed was small. A first issue was authorized (presumably occurred in 1964). This ties in with the information in Edwards noted earlier in the thread in stating that WM were still in use 1962/63.

In this case the dies were presumably the ones for the old WM pattern re-purposed for AA. The lack of an existing die may be a main reason that a pipers headdress badge was not issued at public expense - but this is speculation on my part.

thank you Chris for your help.

John
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With Chris' help we have managed to identify that the silver anodized pipers collar badges for no 1 dress (Horizontal) were first authorized for wear on Dec 9th, 1963 (almost 10 years after first sealing)

The reasons stated for the approval were; the regiments pipers had a tradition of wearing silver (WM) collar badges, the dies were existing and the amount needed was small. A first issue was authorized (presumably occurred in 1964). This ties in with the information in Edwards noted earlier in the thread in stating that WM were still in use 1962/63.

In this case the dies were presumably the ones for the old WM pattern re-purposed for AA. The lack of an existing die may be a main reason that a pipers headdress badge was not issued at public expense - but this is speculation on my part.

thank you Chris for your help.

John
Hi John,

Things have been busy here for the last couple of days. Will have time today to do a bit more research using some notes that I acquired when researching my book.

Hope to get back to you soon.

Regards,

Chris
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CCN 1953;
Royal Irish Fusiliers collar badges
CB 0570 gun metal & white metal, Except Pipe Major and Pipers.
CB 0571 nickel silver Pipe Major and Pipers.

CCN 1963;
Royal Irish Fusiliers collar badges
CB 3551 anodised aluminium No.1 & No.3 Dress.
CB 3470 anodised aluminium, Except Pipe Major and Pipers.
CB 3471 anodised aluminium, Pipe Major and Pipers.

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CCN 1953;
Royal Irish Fusiliers collar badges
CB 0570 gun metal & white metal, Except Pipe Major and Pipers.
CB 0571 nickel silver Pipe Major and Pipers.

CCN 1963;
Royal Irish Fusiliers collar badges
CB 3551 anodised aluminium No.1 & No.3 Dress.
CB 3470 anodised aluminium, Except Pipe Major and Pipers.
CB 3471 anodised aluminium, Pipe Major and Pipers.

Marc
Thank you Marc
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CCN 1953;
Royal Irish Fusiliers collar badges
CB 0570 gun metal & white metal, Except Pipe Major and Pipers.
CB 0571 nickel silver Pipe Major and Pipers.

CCN 1963;
Royal Irish Fusiliers collar badges
CB 3551 anodised aluminium No.1 & No.3 Dress.
CB 3470 anodised aluminium, Except Pipe Major and Pipers.
CB 3471 anodised aluminium, Pipe Major and Pipers.

Marc
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CCN 1982, 1985, 1987;
Royal Irish Fusiliers collar badges (5th (V) Battalion Royal Irish Rangers
CB 8455-99-973-9672 anodised aluminium gold and silver (no other details)
1993;
4 Royal Irish C Company
1995;
4/5 Royal Irish Rangers C Company (Royal Irish Fusiliers) soldiers
NSN and material as above

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