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Old 21-03-18, 09:24 PM
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Default Selous Scouts fake?

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Was just gifted with this SS badge today. The guy had two of them, both exactly alike and both sealed in bags. Repro?
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Old 22-03-18, 03:09 AM
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Hi Mark, what metal are they? What packets were they in? Regards Andrew
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Old 22-03-18, 05:46 AM
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Hi Mark, what metal are they? What packets were they in? Regards Andrew
white metal, bags are clear plastic and heat sealed (heavy gauge, had to cut it with a knife to open it).

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Old 22-03-18, 05:55 AM
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I would say fake. As far as I know they were only made in silver for officers and anodised aluminium for ORs.
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Old 22-03-18, 09:04 AM
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Another very crude copy, but, whilst the some of the regiment had seen service in the SADF and many others would go on to serve in the SADF, the regiment was not South African.

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Old 22-03-18, 05:43 PM
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Thanks gentlemen! As suspected!
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Old 12-06-18, 11:14 AM
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It's a well known fake.

Selous scouts badges were made in anodised aluminium for OR's and silver for officers.
Collar badges on OR's were never stamped. The original beret badge was unstamped (1st issue) while the 2nd issue beret badge was stamped. All Selous Scouts badges were made by Reuteler Mfg.

Selous-OR's-Beret-&-Collar-.jpgSelous-OR's-lugs.jpg

Many stampings on the officers badges. Seven in total in fact of which I won't show here.
Here is one though.
All lugs were brass with no exceptions.

Selous-Officers-Beret-&-Col.jpgSSOB_02.jpg
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Old 14-06-18, 07:20 PM
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Some lovely examples you have there, Peter.

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It's a well known fake.

Selous scouts badges were made in anodised aluminium for OR's and silver for officers.
Collar badges on OR's were never stamped. The original beret badge was unstamped (1st issue) while the 2nd issue beret badge was stamped. All Selous Scouts badges were made by Reuteler Mfg.

Attachment 189763Attachment 189764

Many stampings on the officers badges. Seven in total in fact of which I won't show here.
Here is one though.
All lugs were brass with no exceptions.

Attachment 189765Attachment 189766
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Old 15-06-18, 06:35 AM
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At one stage I had three full sets of Selous Scouts officers badges.
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Old 15-06-18, 08:39 AM
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Grateful for any remarks on these? Purchased in Harare, about 2001-2

Many thanks for any comments

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Old 16-06-18, 01:58 AM
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Hi William,
The first badge is a second issue (explained above) OR's beret badge.
The second badge is a well known fake.
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Old 16-06-18, 02:06 AM
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Another thing to look out for with Selous officer badges is the striations on the reverse. You will find these on the collar badges as well. The more patina the easier it is to see them.
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Lugs must be brass.
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Hi William,
The first badge is a second issue (explained above) OR's beret badge.
The second badge is a well known fake.
Cheers Peter.

Only half disappointed!

Awra best

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Old 17-06-18, 11:22 AM
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I agree with Peter, it is interesting to note where and particularly, when, you actually bought the second badge.

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Old 18-06-18, 01:03 AM
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OR's beret badges.

1st issue.
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2nd issue.
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