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Old 02-10-14, 05:49 PM
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Default South African? - Silver hallmarked badge

Hi further to a post placed yesterday on some Suth African badges I have accumulated and finally getting to grips with I have found this "originally black" but noticed the possibility of hallmarks which after cleaning there is!

Has anyone any idea on this?
Could it be anything other than a Military badge?
The Hallmarks are English with the Lion - ? - Anchor & can,t remember the other block?

Appreciate your help this helps me think I have acquired good badges but thats by accident! and only the odd few here and there! cheers billy
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Old 02-10-14, 06:19 PM
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Hi Billy,
This is for the Cape Government Railways.
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Old 02-10-14, 06:25 PM
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I think the hallmarks are for Birmingham 1886.

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Old 02-10-14, 06:38 PM
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Thanks for the input! would this be a common badge? as its Silver probably not that common (makes the rest appear to be good! though) also would this then have been involved in the Boer War? the Cape I presume was for Britain? I may appear stupid asking this but have read nothing on these campaigns and I do not think I own many badges from this period thanks and look forward to any info Forum members can shed light on this badge cheers "thick as a brick" billy
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Old 02-10-14, 07:15 PM
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Hi Billy,
The badge is discussed here. I will amend my post to you.
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Old 02-10-14, 07:45 PM
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Very nice indeed, certainly not as easy to find these days either, they could be found with ease in South Africa and bought for very little, they played a very important roll in the Anglo Boer War, the Cape Colony was part of the empire, a certain Mr CJ Rhodes was , not only their prime minister, but, also the architect of the railway throughout the whole Colony and part of his Cape to Cairo dream.

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Thanks for the input! would this be a common badge? as its Silver probably not that common (makes the rest appear to be good! though) also would this then have been involved in the Boer War? the Cape I presume was for Britain? I may appear stupid asking this but have read nothing on these campaigns and I do not think I own many badges from this period thanks and look forward to any info Forum members can shed light on this badge cheers "thick as a brick" billy
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Hi further to a post placed yesterday on some Suth African badges I have accumulated and finally getting to grips with I have found this "originally black" but noticed the possibility of hallmarks which after cleaning there is!

Has anyone any idea on this?
Could it be anything other than a Military badge?
The Hallmarks are English with the Lion - ? - Anchor & can,t remember the other block?

Appreciate your help this helps me think I have acquired good badges but thats by accident! and only the odd few here and there! cheers billy
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I think the date letter has been stamped on upside down and is actually a “W” for Birmingham 1896.

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Old 03-10-14, 06:50 AM
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The hallmarks are indeed fifth cycle Birmingham for 1896-97, the mark within this particular cycle for 1886-87 appears similar at a glance, but, the outer shape of it's background is very different and it is not found on this badge anyway.

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I think the date letter has been stamped on upside down and is actually a “W” for Birmingham 1896.

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Old 03-10-14, 02:38 PM
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My dad has 2 in his RAILWAY BADGE collection, did not look at the hallmarks, really should have!

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Old 03-10-14, 07:37 PM
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Hello Brian,
They do tend to be the same marks because of the considerable number actually made, don't forget everything changed in 1910, you then had the SAR.
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Old 03-10-14, 08:19 PM
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Thank you allfor your help in identifying this cheers billy
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