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Old 23-11-22, 05:58 PM
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It has been suggested that it could be Yorkshire or Lancashire Yeomanry related but I still can't find a positive ID. I wondered if it was lugged arm badge conversion but cannot find one that matches.
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Old 25-11-22, 09:31 PM
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I’ve asked Keith Hook about this badge, it’s one he’s never seen before and confirms it’s neither Yeomanry or Hampshire related. He also doesn’t think OTC/Cadets, I didn’t realise this until he told me just now but he had a good collection of these which he sold to Hugh King.

I would say if it had any connection to any Yeomanry you could bet your mortgage Keith would’ve known.

So it remains a mystery it seems.
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Old 27-11-22, 03:48 PM
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This article from 1923 states that a w/m rose was worn by the militia. Sadly no photo.
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I was going to add this morning but forgot, whilst browsing dead Spartan saw a wm rose collar design for 4th West York Militia, it also noted the 1st Royal Lancashire wore the same patter.

Could be an avenue worth exploring.
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Old 27-11-22, 06:34 PM
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I am of the opinion that with a slider the badge is for the cap and is early 20th Century and probably not military.

I am leaning towards badges worn by people that we havent considered such as one of the Yorkshire Ambulance Services, the staff at a posh Harrogate Hotel or security staff at a Hampshire Bank, etc etc.

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Anything to do with the Yorkshire Dragoons I Y slouch hat rose badge on the blue rosette?

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I think the one worn on the rosette was smaller but I am not ruling it out just yet.

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Old 19-08-23, 05:28 PM
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Apparently Derbyshire Yeomanry used a rose badge on their slouch hats.
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Old 19-08-23, 06:25 PM
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Apparently Derbyshire Yeomanry used a rose badge on their slouch hats.
They (as IY) did but it is not that (badge post #1).
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Alan, The FSC, or side-cap as it was called, enjoyed a renaissance in the 1960s and were worn in a number of Infantry regiments. In my battalion all officers wore the side-cap both as part of barrack dress (self purchase Jaeger sweater, SD trousers, shirt and tie) and with full SD. But after a change of CO, who disliked the side-cap intensely, side-caps and sweaters went the way of many non-standard sartorial delights. The caps were otherwise very popular. So much so that when I read your comments on VB badges (1VB Leicesters) I thought you had hit a nail bang on its head. Why rush to wear a cap badge when one already had a FSC and ready-made collar badge?
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Alan, The FSC, or side-cap as it was called, enjoyed a renaissance in the 1960s and were worn in a number of Infantry regiments. In my battalion all officers wore the side-cap both as part of barrack dress (self purchase Jaeger sweater, SD trousers, shirt and tie) and with full SD. But after a change of CO, who disliked the side-cap intensely, side-caps and sweaters went the way of many non-standard sartorial delights. The caps were otherwise very popular. So much so that when I read your comments on VB badges (1VB Leicesters) I thought you had hit a nail bang on its head. Why rush to wear a cap badge when one already had a FSC and ready-made collar badge?
Alas the IY were a law unto themselves,
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