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Old 30-08-22, 05:55 PM
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Hello gentlemen,

i have just added this helmet plate for other ranks of the Royal Artillery Militia to my collection.
Victorian crown, so it should be KK812 and in wear 1891-1902.

It is very sharp and detailed die struck with a deep relief, only two dark copper lugs to the reverse.
I guess and hope it is an old period item, if there are any doubts please let me know.
I found a very similar example in the album of 54bty

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...pictureid=1418

very close, but at least not the same die.
My badge seems to be "multi-purpose", the "UBIQUE" scroll above the gun could have been cut or strucked out and the lower scroll with "MILITIA ARTILLERY" is soldered (or "brazed") to the badge.
The obverse has been coated with a kind of zapon varnish to protect from oxydation.
That is what i see, any comments and corrections are welcome,
thanks for looking,
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Markus
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Old 30-08-22, 07:04 PM
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Markus,

Its an original Helmet Plate for other ranks 1881 - 1902.

It was just a financial cost saving exercise to add various scrolls to badges rather than make dies for every badge, quite normal.

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Old 31-08-22, 01:49 PM
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Thanks for your expertise Simon
glad to here that everything is ok with it.
So the same die could be used for helmet plates or pouch / sabretache badges for artillery, engineers a.s.o.
Yes, very common, but i like it about the good condition. And it has still a gun in the obsolete design with a "wooden" carriage (lafette ?) without rivets.

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