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Old 22-02-20, 10:15 AM
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Alan,

The problem is , is that this frame was constructed 1899 - 1900?

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Alan,

The problem is , is that this frame was constructed 1899 - 1900?

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The letter states that "he began this collection ..... about 1899-1900" , perhaps they were not framed until years later ?

P.S - I was also intrigued by the fact that his daughter cleaned the badges in 1988 , she must have been a good age.
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Hello Simon,
On the face of it, certainly a handsome collection, what sort of frame is it, I take it the frame was glazed and you have inspected each piece, from the photographs, they do all appear good examples.
I don't understand the need to actually clean them, badges that were new in 1899 and then glazed may well tone on the obverse, but, so often each reverse can remain in a mint state.
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Old 22-02-20, 02:02 PM
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They were in a very hand made glazed frame which was falling to pieces.

She has obviously used brasso as the residue is on the fronts, I will use a sonic cleaner to loosen it off and lightly brush in water, usually tidies them up without any damage.

PS. After using a strong magnifier on the Leicesters badge I queeried earlier I feel it may have once had a scroll on top.

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Old 22-02-20, 02:12 PM
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Okay, well that's very typical and what I would expect one hundred and twenty years or so down the line, it is nice for you to have it, try and keep it as found, this sort of thing used to turn up forty years ago, sadly, it does not do these days, I would be quite pleased if I were you.
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Great collection, thanks for sharing
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Thanks for all the replies gents, a splendid item indeed and from auction recently as some of you saw.

My other lots still havent turned up and I feel that by now they wont ever appear. I shall watch the internet for the few amongst them that at recognisable.

The frame did indeed cost a lot of money but there were badges within it that I wanted and in order to recoup my outlay I am afraid I have to split it and sell on the others.

If I was rich enough I would love to just stick it on the wall but alas I am not.

To answer your queeries, yes, thats a CLB badge, not sure why thats there.

I will photograph the Coldstrean Guards badge for Andy soon.

One question I do have is in relation the the Leicestershire Regiment badge without top scroll. Its on loops and NEVER had a top scroll. I thought this was a post 1908 TF badge? This is earlier on loops but no scroll? Any ideas?

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Yes a nice Victorian OR's cap star. Let us know how much you want for it, if your selling that is.
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Old 23-02-20, 02:12 PM
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That's good and certainly contemporary to the other badges in the frame, a lot of people would just look and see another star, but, those had all disappeared by 1914.
It's a shame the badges have been subjected to the brasso type thing.


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As an aside (sorry!) Is there any chance of a "before" and "after" set of photos of a couple of badges cleaned this way please? I am considering an ultra sonic cleaner in addition to the usual way I clean things so I'd be very interested to see the outcome.


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They were in a very hand made glazed frame which was falling to pieces.

She has obviously used brasso as the residue is on the fronts, I will use a sonic cleaner to loosen it off and lightly brush in water, usually tidies them up without any damage.

PS. After using a strong magnifier on the Leicesters badge I queeried earlier I feel it may have once had a scroll on top.

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