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Old 04-08-21, 11:23 AM
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Thought to share these latest additions, Fire Gilt Officer's and a Bronze bladed badge, if these can be assessed to give a time in usage? WW1 or WW2 that would be helpful, many thanks Billy
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And other countries.

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Gilt is most likely post WW2, and bronze is WW1 era.
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Hi Billy,

The gilt badge is possibly for an officer of the permanent Royal New Zealand Artillery in undress from about 1911 until 1949, although there may be some gaps in that period, and worn by both permanent and territorial officers of RNZA after that until the crown was gradually replaced during the 1950s by a St Edwards crown.

The bronzed badge was worn by Territorial officers of the New Zealand Artillery from about 1911 up until 1949 when the permanent RNZA and the part-time NZA amalgamated as the RNZA as they are today.

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Old 07-08-21, 06:29 AM
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Many thanks gentlemen have a better understanding of these now for time frame! Might have some more comming which I will post if I get the chance? All the best billy
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Old 08-08-21, 12:39 AM
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Hi Billy,

The gilt badge is possibly for an officer of the permanent Royal New Zealand Artillery in undress from about 1911 until 1949, although there may be some gaps in that period, and worn by both permanent and territorial officers of RNZA after that until the crown was gradually replaced during the 1950s by a St Edwards crown.

The bronzed badge was worn by Territorial officers of the New Zealand Artillery from about 1911 up until 1949 when the permanent RNZA and the part-time NZA amalgamated as the RNZA as they are today.

Keith
Indeed, the RNZA gun badge and NZ Territorial gun badge were authorized for use by General Godley in 1911.
However, it appears both badges were in use prior to 1911, the “RNZA” gun badge being worn by the NZ Permanent artillery/ Garrison Artillery and the “NZ” gun badge being worn by the Garrison Artillery, but that is a story for another day.

So, the question is, can these badges “be assessed to give a time in usage?”
The NZ 1912 Dress regulations allow for an Artillery officers “Full Dress” and “Blue serge Frock” that badges in “brass or gilt” are to be worn.

The following two pictures shows my brass Gaunt made RNZA (raised wheel) badge that is WW1 period, and as can be seen is very different when viewing the back of Billy’s Gaunt made RNZA badge.

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The following picture shows a nice early gilt “NZ” badge.

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The following pictures shows three post WW2 gun badges that have very similar backs to Billy’s gilt badge.

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