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Old 10-07-21, 12:53 PM
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Default Order of Precedence 1918

Hi All,

I am designing the order in which I display my collection which is of OR cap badges of regular units at 11 Nov 1918. I have 16 or so left to collect which will cost about £350-400.

Can anyone tell me a useful source for Orders of Precedence? The only one I can find is at the old regiments.org site which can be viewed with the internet archive at http://web.archive.org/web/200701061...sts/ba1918.htm

I wondered whether Army Lists might help but I couldn't find anything other than alphabetic lists in the table of contents in the ones I saw.

I'm fine with the cavalry, infantry, RA and RE: my only difficulties are with the Services, Departments and Corps and War Raised Units and whether certain overseas forces (eg BWI Regt, W India Regt, Newfoundland Regt, West African Regt &c) are technically part of the British Army establishment.

The regiments.org list does have a few errors in it (eg the Corps of Military Accountants wasn't formed until the next year) so some corroboration would be nice.

Thanks!

Tom
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Old 11-07-21, 12:36 AM
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You might try this book although it dates from 1916. 'Regimental Traditions and Nicknames of the British Army' (5th edition)

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Kings Regulations and Orders for the Army may assist you. They have the order of precedence of Corps and Regiments.

1908 was on line.
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Here you go - for 1914 !
Go to a decent library and look through the Army List for 1918


British Army 1914, in precedence · Infantry OR Cap Badges
RACD sealing pattern number on left, title in centre, details etc on right

Foot Guards
1170A/1897 The Grenadier Guards loops
1174A/1897 The Coldstream Guards loops
1172A/1897 The Scots Guards loops
5032/1900 The Irish Guards loops
8387/1915 The Welsh Guards loops

Infantry of the line
2017/1889 The Royal Scots (Lothian Regiment) loops
4681/1898 The Queen’s (Royal West Surrey) Regiment
4425/1896 The Buffs (East Kent) Regiment
4500/1897 The King's Own (Royal Lancaster) Regiment
4276C/1896 The Northumberland Fusiliers
4433/1896 The Royal Warwickshire Regiment
10334A/1902 The Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment)
4362A/1896 The King's (Liverpool Regiment)
4554/1897 The Norfolk Regiment
4476/1897 The Lincolnshire Regiment
4612A/1903 The Devonshire Regiment
4565A/1901 The Suffolk Regiment
4623/1898 The Prince Albert’s (Somerset Light Infantry)
4258B/1896 The Prince of Wales’ Own (West Yorkshire Regiment)
4620/1898 The East Yorkshire Regiment
4521/1897 The Bedfordshire Regiment
4522/1897 The Leicestershire Regiment
7442/1911 The Royal Irish Regiment
Essentially the same as 4397/1896 (QVC) and 4397A/1902 (KC) but specifically sealed with a copper strengthening loop behind the crown – this one just under the top of the slider.
4694A/1903 Alexandra, Princess of Wales’ Own (Yorkshire Regiment)
Modified 20 Nov 1905, WO359/14, 60 – slider moved to centre of badge.
4547/1897 The Lancashire Fusiliers
9994B/1901 The Royal Scots Fusiliers loops
4564/1897 The Cheshire Regiment
4643/1898 The Royal Welsh Fusiliers
4452/1896 The South Wales Borderers
2076A/1903 The Kings Own Scottish Borderers loops
10158D/1906 The Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) loops
4684/1898 The Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
4423/1896 The Gloucestershire Regiment
4424/1896 Gloucestershire Regt, back badge
4516/1897 The Worcestershire Regiment
4557A/1901 The East Lancashire Regiment
Essentially the same as 4557/1897 (QVC) and 4557A/1901 (KC) but slider moved to behind sphinx – ACD 2nd Nov 1905 ( TNA 359/14, 55)
4607A/1902 The East Surrey Regiment
4655/1898 The Duke of Cornwall’s Light Infantry
4257/1897 The Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment)
4495B/1905 The Border Regiment
4691/1898 The Royal Sussex Regiment
4622A/1898 The Hampshire Regiment
4527/1901 The South Staffordshire Regiment
4632A/1901 The Dorsetshire Regiment
4581/1897 The Prince of Wales’ Vols (South Lancashire Regiment)
4636/1898 The Welsh Regiment
10710A/1904 The Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) loops
4724/1898 The Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry
4514/1901 The Essex Regiment
6009/1903 The Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment)
0838/1908 The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment
Essentially the same design as 4515A/1897 (QVC) and 4515B/1902 (KC) but specifically sealed with a strengthened (bent over) slider.
4639A/1901 The Northamptonshire Regiment
4434/1896 The Princess Charlotte of Wales’ (Royal Berkshire Regiment)
4460/1898 The Queen’s Own (Royal West Kent Regiment)
1890A/1899 The King’s Own (Yorkshire Light Infantry) loops
4638/1898 The King’s (Shropshire Light Infantry)
4451/1896 The Duke of Cambridge’s Own (Middlesex Regiment)
884E/1905 The King's Royal Rifle Corps
4432/1896 The Duke of Edinburgh’s (Wiltshire Regiment)
4586/1898 The Manchester Regiment
4493/1897 The Prince of Wales’ (North Staffordshire Regiment)
4563/1897 The York and Lancaster Regiment
4621A/1903 The Durham Light Infantry
10235A/1902 The Highland Light Infantry loops
10190/1882 The Seaforth Highlanders (Ross Shire Buffs, The Duke of Albany’s) 3lps
10138/1882 The Gordon Highlanders loops
4519/1897 The Queen’s Own Cameron Highlanders loops
7730/1913 The Royal Irish Rifles
8005/1914 The Princess Victoria’s (Royal Irish Fusiliers)
4368B/1906 The Connaught Rangers
Essentially the same as 4368/1896 (QVC) and 4368A/1901 (KC) but specifically sealed with a vertical shank and – almost certainly – a copper strengthening loop behind the crown.
7958/1913 The Princess Louise’s (Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders) loops
4492/1897 The Prince of Wales’s Leinster Regiment (Royal Canadians) loops
4642/1898 The Royal Munster Fusiliers
4579/1897 The Royal Dublin Fusiliers
4091D/1905 The Rifle Brigade (The Prince Consort’s Own) loops

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You might try this book although it dates from 1916. 'Regimental Traditions and Nicknames of the British Army' (5th edition)

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Thanks - it's got a lot in there but not all the services and not in precedence order.
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Kings Regulations and Orders for the Army may assist you. They have the order of precedence of Corps and Regiments.

1908 was on line.
That sounds highly promising. I'll have a search for it but if you do know of a link I'd be glad to have it!

Thanks,

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Old 12-07-21, 12:08 PM
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That sounds highly promising. I'll have a search for it but if you do know of a link I'd be glad to have it!

Thanks,

Tom
Ah! I have found a link and also a later 1912 (updated to 1914) set of KRs.

1908: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?...iew=1up&seq=11

1912/14: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?...ew=1up&seq=413

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