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Old 23-09-20, 10:01 PM
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Default Tank Corps badges.

For any Tank Corps collectors on the forum there is an interesting thread on the Great War Forum, in the section on uniforms and badges, that might be of interest to you. A real eye-opener perhaps.
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Old 23-09-20, 10:50 PM
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Not for me.

Firstly the picture is of an officer’s bronze OSD badge. Secondly could I swear those definitely are ‘spanners’, no.

The ‘spanners’ 1970s fake is attached below you can clearly see from the shape of the crown it’s base, voids, berries, tank outline etc these are two very different dies.

Whoever Ypres1915 is he appears to have shown the fake BM cast copy Gaunt badge as a ‘genuine’ example when it is not.

Nice to see there’s some lighthearted mocking of our mods too. I also look forward to seeing Toby Purcell’s new evidence relating to school of musketry.

https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/...k-corps-badge/
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Old 24-09-20, 12:00 AM
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Just to add.

It may well have been Andy’s helpful thread which coined ‘ring spanners’ https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...corps+spanners

This has over time inevitably I suspect shortened in writings to just ‘spanners’.

What needs to be remembered is this is a colloquial term being used here to identify a prominent feature of badges from the Martin Marsh catalogue fake die, no. 131. Certainly when I use it my meaning is badges originating from this die.

And the die a badge is from is often paramount, as we know some TC fakes don’t have spanners, like this looped badge so just applying the beware of spanners is no silver bullet.

Conversely the badge on the red background does have spanners but they’re not the ‘dreaded’ sort or quite so ‘ring’ like or hollowed out. It’s clearly from a different die altogether and vastly differs from the Martin Marsh fake. I would be happy with this seldom seen badge in my collection.

Somehow beware is the ‘dreaded 99% of spanners with a hollow ring centre and crown with asymmetrical jewels and no void under the crown’ doesn’t have the same ring to it.

Similarly the Mr Punch faced Britannia on Norfolk Regiment fakes can sometimes be misconstrued and wrongly applied to the genuine Lambourne badge because on their version she is a bit of a thugly.

This is why it’s important to study the badge rather than merely repeating a tagline.
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Old 24-09-20, 07:15 AM
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I'm still waiting for actual evidence to support his claims regarding spurious gilt and enamel LG and RHG forage cap badges.


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Nice to see there’s some lighthearted mocking of our mods too. I also look forward to seeing Toby Purcell’s new evidence relating to school of musketry.

https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/...k-corps-badge/
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Old 24-09-20, 08:17 AM
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I don't mean this comment to be interpreted as a for or against ring spanner badges being genuine or duff - the GWF photo is interesting but to me the quality of the magnified image is too poor to be sure that the apparently large spanner is such rather than a flaw or blemish in the image.

Interesting - I shall continue to sit on the sidelines (fence?) and follow the threads on these badges on both forums whilst hoping that they stay on theme and don't degenerate in to a shagfest.
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Old 07-02-21, 12:29 PM
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Does anyone have 100% original TC badge they can post. I have seen so many variants especially ones with three holes above corps scroll and others with two.

Sliders depending on manufacturer could be on tank scroll or crown from what I can workout at the minute.

Also below crown hole or no hole.

I’m trying to get 100% original to add to my research on my great grandad.

One last thing as well please. My gg transferred from Notts SRY to TC where he remained however two months after joining TC he is listed as MGC although still in TC, can anyone enlighten me on this please
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Old 07-02-21, 01:00 PM
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Hi Dave,

All these badges belonged to Pte Ben Clark TC.

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Old 07-02-21, 04:46 PM
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Members of the Heavy Section of the Machine Gun Corps formed the Tank Corps, when did your gg join the TC?
Original TC cap badges are very common, you should not have any problem in obtaining an example.

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Does anyone have 100% original TC badge they can post. I have seen so many variants especially ones with three holes above corps scroll and others with two.

Sliders depending on manufacturer could be on tank scroll or crown from what I can workout at the minute.

Also below crown hole or no hole.

I’m trying to get 100% original to add to my research on my great grandad.

One last thing as well please. My gg transferred from Notts SRY to TC where he remained however two months after joining TC he is listed as MGC although still in TC, can anyone enlighten me on this please
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Old 07-02-21, 07:48 PM
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MH331

Many thanks that has cleared a few things up, seen ones similar but slider on crown so assuming still original.

Frank

My GG joined Notts SRY in July 1915

Transferred to TC in Feb 17

March 17 MGC although still TC according to records. There is a word before MGC on his records that I cannot make out looks like loaned but not sure. Either way he was TC from Feb 17 until 1920 when he was wounded in France
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Old 07-02-21, 07:57 PM
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I would have thought that a statement of service in WO363 or WO364 would be clear on both units and dates, he was wounded in France in 1920? very strange, what is his name?


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Many thanks that has cleared a few things up, seen ones similar but slider on crown so assuming still original.

Frank

My GG joined Notts SRY in July 1915

Transferred to TC in Feb 17

March 17 MGC although still TC according to records. There is a word before MGC on his records that I cannot make out looks like loaned but not sure. Either way he was TC from Feb 17 until 1920 when he was wounded in France
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Old 07-02-21, 08:58 PM
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Old 10-02-21, 03:42 PM
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Cap badges worn by Colour Sergeant Thomas Hogan, an old sweat and a founder member of the Tank Corps.


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Sliders depending on manufacturer could be on tank scroll or crown from what I can workout at the minute.

Also below crown hole or no hole.

I’m trying to get 100% original to add to my research on my great grandad.
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