Indian 26th Jacob’s Mountain Battery

[Blue Puttees]

Could someone please post a photograph of the badge worn by the Indian 26th Jacob’s Mountain Battery in 1915. Thank you.

[Lampwick]

Title marked 'f' is of the 36th. Not a badge I'll grant you.
http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ad.php?t=19586

[peter monahan]

The 36th is Jacob's Horse, not the 26th [Jacob's Battery] RIA. I believe that the gunners would have worn the brass shoulder title - probably 'RIA' - common to WWI Indian units and may or may not have had a distinguishing arm patch to distinguish the Battery. The officers would have worn the standard RIA cap badge of the period.

[fairlie63]

Originally Posted by Blue Puttees

Could someone please post a photograph of the badge worn by the Indian 26th Jacob’s Mountain Battery in 1915. Thank you.

Hi, I don't know what badge was worn by the Indian Mountain Artillery at that time but do have a brass title IMA with a star above on a white shoulder slide.

If that is what you are looking for I'll photograph it and post.

Keith

[Blue Puttees]

I would like to know what insignia (if any) was worn by the 21st Kohat Mountain Battery and the 26th Jacob's Mountain Battery at Gallipoli.

[blackpowder44]

Originally Posted by Blue Puttees

I would like to know what insignia (if any) was worn by the 21st Kohat Mountain Battery and the 26th Jacob's Mountain Battery at Gallipoli.

The two pictures of the Mountain Arty. These badges were worn on the left sleeve of the Indian gunners, John.

[blackpowder44]

Originally Posted by peter monahan

The 36th is Jacob's Horse, not the 26th [Jacob's Battery] RIA. I believe that the gunners would have worn the brass shoulder title - probably 'RIA' - common to WWI Indian units and may or may not have had a distinguishing arm patch to distinguish the Battery. The officers would have worn the standard RIA cap badge of the period.

I don't think that the Indian Arty. became Royal until 1945, Normal brass title was I.ARTY, John.

[blackpowder44]

My collection of Indian Artillery badges including I ARTY brass and cloth slip on, John.

[fairlie63]

Blue Puttees

Attached is the IMA title which Cox shows on p303 but does not describe. I don't know if the colour of the backing slide was significant. Cox says the IMA wore the RA badge - this might be applicable to the British officers but not to the Indian officers and ORs prior to 1924.

My Army Regulations India 1913, Vol VII, Dress, is no help as it only refers to officers and does not describe a badge or title, in fact it does not appear if Indian officers wore a badge other than gilt grenades on the collar; perhaps the red pagri sufficed in lieu of a badge, or the khaki pagri with gold fringe in service dress.

British officers of the IMA were clothed according to Dress Regulations for the Army so I guess there was no title involved there at all.

Awesome collection of RA helmet flashes John!

Keith

[Blue Puttees]

Yes, a truly amazing collection of RA helmet flashes John! ! !

Thanks John and Keith for the information.

[peter monahan]

A great collection indeed, John. WWII and later, I think. And an IMA with star above, Fairlees, would be post independence, when the British crown was replaced with a star or the lions of Ashoka. Most of the photos of Indian troops from WWI show no visible badges, thought that doesn't preclude shoulder titles, as these often are not visible, but certainly no pagri or collar badges. IOs and british Officers were different, obviously, but in action tended to dress like their men, including turbans for the BOs, a habit thew Indian Army picked up well before WWI, as the tribesmen on the NWF were very quick to snipe the 'odd man out'.
At Gallipoli, Indian troops would have been wearing no sleeve markings or turban/pagri badges it's safe to say, but the shoulder titles mentioned: RIA or, for British troops on attachment, RA. Again, this does not apply to officers that early in the war.

[Khyber]

21st Kohat Mtn Btty became 'Royal' after 1921 if I remember right,so the one with ' R' is not WW1 issue.. I have an IDSM group to them so wanted a badge but not found one still..there was one with Buywyze earlier similar to the one shown here with a crown above but that is also not WW1

[Khyber]

BTW, that's a lovely Arty collection. What is that plaque in the centre. would love to have something like that

[blackpowder44]

Originally Posted by Khyber

BTW, that's a lovely Arty collection. What is that plaque in the centre. would love to have something like that

The silver plaque is hallmarked for 1922. I bought a some arte pagri badges and this came with them, it was as black as your hat and appeared to have been near a fire and I was amazed on cleaning it to find it was silver. I would think that it was part of a challange shield or something similar, John.

[Piffer]

The IMA title with star of India above is the shoulder title worn by the Indian Military Academy.