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Old 20-03-19, 12:56 AM
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Gentlemen, I've been had. In my fifteen years of collecting I had never been the victim of a scam until I bought a fake WW1 German Airplane cut out on ebay from 9999destination AKA, David Empson of Ipswich. His offer of a full refund "if not delighted" was worthless. The item was returned followed by a series of bizarre excuses from Brexit to the Mexican Wall amongst others as the reasons for not returning my funds. Ebay and Paypal were utterly useless and sided with this fraudulent seller. He also sold a fake WW1 German helmet plate to another buyer and again never returned funds. I'm furious. I'm hoping to meet Mr. Empson and have a civil conversation with him one day. Unfortunately I'm across the pond in Canada.
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Old 20-03-19, 09:07 AM
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You bought a fake Airplane cut out?
What actually is that?


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Gentlemen, I've been had. In my fifteen years of collecting I had never been the victim of a scam until I bought a fake WW1 German Airplane cut out on ebay from 9999destination AKA, David Empson of Ipswich. His offer of a full refund "if not delighted" was worthless. The item was returned followed by a series of bizarre excuses from Brexit to the Mexican Wall amongst others as the reasons for not returning my funds. Ebay and Paypal were utterly useless and sided with this fraudulent seller. He also sold a fake WW1 German helmet plate to another buyer and again never returned funds. I'm furious. I'm hoping to meet Mr. Empson and have a civil conversation with him one day. Unfortunately I'm across the pond in Canada.
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Old 20-03-19, 09:38 AM
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Presumably a piece of fabric, perhaps with painted insignia from fuselage, wing, tail of a German air force aircraft.
Here's the closest thing I have to a fake German cut out, from Duxford Air Show.
I really need another two of the plywood things so I can stick em on the garage wall like Hilda Ogden's flying ducks.
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Old 20-03-19, 11:50 AM
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You bought a fake Airplane cut out?
What actually is that?
Cloth fabric from the tail section of a downed german aircraft.
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Old 20-03-19, 12:12 PM
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(These posts were moved to a new thread. The post had no relationship to the topic of previous thread on Newfoundland badges.)
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It's probably a price of doped linen fabric that covered wooden aeroplanes, may have had something like the German cross on it, cut from crashed aircraft for souvenirs.
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Old 20-03-19, 12:41 PM
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Whats this got to do with Canadian Military Insignia?
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Old 20-03-19, 12:55 PM
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It ain't - this section of the thread was "moved" a little while back.
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Old 20-03-19, 01:02 PM
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Would have been better to move it to the fakes & forgeries section, not Canadian.
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It ain't - this section of the thread was "moved" a little while back.
No its not.

Its in the Canadian Military Insignia section.
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Old 20-03-19, 01:32 PM
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Must because the thread starter is Canadian.
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Gentlemen, I've been had. In my fifteen years of collecting I had never been the victim of a scam until I bought a fake WW1 German Airplane cut out on ebay from 9999destination AKA, David Empson of Ipswich. His offer of a full refund "if not delighted" was worthless. The item was returned followed by a series of bizarre excuses from Brexit to the Mexican Wall amongst others as the reasons for not returning my funds. Ebay and Paypal were utterly useless and sided with this fraudulent seller. He also sold a fake WW1 German helmet plate to another buyer and again never returned funds. I'm furious. I'm hoping to meet Mr. Empson and have a civil conversation with him one day. Unfortunately I'm across the pond in Canada.
Are there any images available of said item?

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(Sticky keyboard and slow thinking this am. Thread moved again, this time to appropriate board.)
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How much was this refund you didn't get.
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Old 20-03-19, 11:06 PM
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The pattern was a sloppy repaint at some point and spilled over to the reversed side. Fabric was heavy and not consistent with a period piece. The pattern is suspect as well.

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