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Old 22-12-15, 05:25 PM
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Hi yes we have tried the local papers to no avail.
The painting was found in the Red Cross charity shop in Belper. The only information we have is that there was a note on the painting saying 'Belper Soldier'. It would be great to have a name and maybe a potted history of the man and either find his family or donate the painting to the local museum.
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Old 22-12-15, 06:13 PM
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I have a number of paintings and portrait photos that I have acquired over the years, some I have been able to identify but not so with others.

In one case I recognised the man in the hand coloured photo immediately from his entry in "Bravest of Hearts " a WW1 history of the Liverpool Scottish, in the picture the tartan of the kilt is mainly red, which is artistic licence as the correct Forbes tartan is mainly green.

I also have an oil painting of a Major in a Scottish Regiment where I have never been able to positively identify the subject. I think he is a Cameron but that is as much as I know.

I think in the case of the Belper Soldier we need a bit of luck if the mans name is ever to be known but fingers crossed, you never know.

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Old 22-12-15, 07:15 PM
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Thanks Peter. We thought it would be relatively easy to find the mans name with him being as we thought local to Belper. How wrong we were!!
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Written instructions on the reverse of the painting
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Can't make out what the next to last line reads but I think the last line reads: "row of ribbons as specimens". That being the case, that might explain the miniature clasp on the Africa Star ribbon. The portrait artist was probably painting the ribbons using the full length ribbons as specimens, the Africa Star ribbon being complete with full size clasp. He wouldn't have known that a different device was worn on the ribbon bar.

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Thanks Guys. The mystery thickens!!
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Written instructions on the reverse of the painting
If it helps, I read it thus:

Complexion Ruddy
Hair Fair
Eyes Blue
Dark Tortoise Shell [sic] Glasses
Row of Ribbons as Specimens

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"Dark tortoiseshell glasses" is the line I couldn't work out. Unfortunately, it doesn't provide much in the way of another clue!!

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Thanks David
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Does anyone think he could be Derbyshire Yeomanry?
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You may have already done so, but if not, it might be worth contacting the owner of this site:

http://www.madrecce.moonfruit.com/

I think it is worth exploring all avenues.

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Thanks Peter I've already tried that one to no avail!
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Old 07-01-16, 08:41 PM
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Richard,

Have you contacted the local British Legion Branch:

http://counties.britishlegion.org.uk.../belper-br0012

Again worth a try if you haven't done so already.

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Thanks Peter I'll try that one.
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http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/1867...oll-of-honour/

Tried these guys?
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