My Canadian Cloth - 4th Dgn Gds - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

lettman · #1 01-09-08, 01:05 AM

Printed (Sexton 29f) and embroidered (Sexton 29d).

Bill A · #2 01-09-08, 12:30 PM

Two nice WW2 era titles for the Plugs. Again, the full name title is the starch or size back pattern.

lettman · #3 01-09-08, 10:51 PM

Plugs?! -- love it!

Voltigeur · #4 01-09-08, 11:13 PM

Hi guys, me again. As for this title there is a good photograph of Lt.Col. Petch CO. of the Plugs (and former CO of the NNSH in Normandy before his incident with Keller) on his return to Canada in Oct.'45, wearing this full-name with large IV shoulder title in the book written by Lt.Col H.M. Jackson in 1951 on the 4th P.L.D.G. So,can we presume that the unit ordered those when they arrived in NW Europe?
Cheers
Jo

Bill A · #5 02-09-08, 12:22 AM

Hello Jo, The "starch" back or sized titles are a real mystery. I have asked about the provenance of these before, and to date, no explanation has come to light. They are definitely late war, and appear to be a "system" issue.
Units indented for titles once the RAOC / RCOC were tasked with providing them as a "issue" item. And it seems that all the Canadian army units (and some formations) had the starch back titles made.

Voltigeur · #6 02-09-08, 12:54 AM

Bill, I remember in the mid-80's those same "starch" back were treated as "English copies" and probably made to flood the market for collectors or re-enactors. Like you, I never got a definite answer to the questions where, when, why. Maybe they were ordered, post-May '45 so guys could put them on the "Best Battledress" when walking out and they looked a lot sharper than the printed ones. Also the Army needed a lot in a short time. But that just me thinking.
What about you, Bill?
Jo