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Old 15-08-11, 11:39 PM
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Hi Guys

I know this is a bit mundane but could somebody tell me if there is anything unusual about the wreath on this WW2 RE cap badge please?

I can't post the back as the badge hasnt arrived yet.

I believe the leaves look too detailed with veins etc. I have compared it to the picture on 2747andy's and Heys810's ebay listings.

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Old 15-08-11, 11:52 PM
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Hi Phil,

It looks like it could be a cast badge. I'll be interested to see the reverse image once you have it.

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Old 15-08-11, 11:59 PM
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It was an impulse purchase, it was started at 99p. My funds could stretch to £4.50 for it.

Cast, thats interesting, I have never had a cast badge before, if it is, what does it mean?

Tell a lie, I lost a 17/21 Lancers motto that was a cast badge, I will never know what happened to that.

I have always considered cast badges to be reproductions, I have read threads about them on the forum, but, I'm still a little confused about them.

I will email him and ask him to email me a picture of the back. Otherwise, i will definately post one when its here.

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Old 17-08-11, 04:43 PM
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Hi,

Here you go Ry, the badge arrived this morning, its not a cast badge as you can see. I have my doubts.

Can see the extra detail on the leaves.

Slider is strange too, it has a fold over where its attached to the badge and the slider is very tapered.

I have my doubts, what thinks you?

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Old 17-08-11, 05:40 PM
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Hi phil,

I have examples of this badge with varying degrees of taper to their sliders, not all are badges that I regard as genuine, none however have a taper as pronounced as the one shown here.

I know there are good badges that feature the "folded" type slider but I haven't seen one on this badge before.

Other negatives are the apparent seemingly sharp edges to the voiding on the reverse, together with the incomplete voiding on the cypher.

On the plus side it seems to be a very detailed strike.

As a collector of RE badges though, I would be happy to give it house room as a variation.

Hopefully other RE collectors will be able to give a more definitive answer.

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Old 17-08-11, 06:13 PM
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Thanks Ry.

i deliberately didnt mention the 'burrs' around the voiding, so i didnt influence opinions and to see if anybody picked up on it as strange. they arent sharp at all and neither are the edges of the badge.

It will be a shame if its repro but i haven't lost much and as you say its an interesting variation. i may start an 'interesting restrike/repro collection.

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Old 17-08-11, 07:00 PM
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Nothing mundane about the Royal Engineers Phil My Great Grandfather was proud to be RE, a few members on here too. I wonder if Jerry has one like yours, very good detail indeed, be interesting to hear the opinions of others. Cheers,
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Old 17-08-11, 07:08 PM
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nope i have family in the REs

i thought it was worth the risk as an item of interest. it was just the leaves that intrigued me.

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Old 17-08-11, 09:30 PM
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Looking at the burrs around the voiding, it seems that they are quite deliberate. They are even all the way around and give a depth to the cypher. Viewed from the front, they look quite 'right'. I don't know if it is clear from the attached photo.

Gold braze too.

For interest, I have attached a photo of my cousin Tyrone, I was reminded of his existence a little while ago, he is stationed in Scotland now. He has also been promoted since then. I don't know why he was up in front of a firing squad, but he survived. I'm guessing this photo was taken in the late eighties or early nineties. Doesn't look the smartest corporal i have ever seen.

The badge he is wearing is the same as one he gave me as a child, in fact the first badge I ever had, its anodised bimetal and was attached to a camo baseball cap that was MOD marked, i remember a label. The cap was stolen by one of my old school friends.

The Medal he is wearing has 3 vertical stripes on the ribbon, blue or green/purple/blue or green?

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Your badge prompted me to post this: http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...373#post127373 a fake? badge of similar construction.

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Old 18-08-11, 03:52 PM
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I contacted the guy who sold the RE badge to me yesterday. He replied earlier saying that it was a part of his dad's collection. His father was in the RAMC and recently passed away. He knows nothing more about it.

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Old 19-08-11, 07:09 AM
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There is nothing about it that screams fake to me. It is a very common badge and there were lots of variants.
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thanks again Alan, are you an RE collector?

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Not specifically but I have a number of ORs' RE badges from 1902-present.
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oh ok, i have actually sent this badge to Ry. It will be interesting to see his view on the badge once its in hand.

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