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5th London RFA Brigade
Hello,
I am trying to date this nice London RFA Brigade cap badge, I believe it is Pre WW1. Mike |
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Mike,
I am afraid its not that early. Its 2016. One of the many "rare" artillery badge fakes. Numerous threads on here if you wish to see why. regards
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The design is pre WW1 but not the badge I am afraid.
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What about this one? Sorry for poor quality scannerphoto. Back is too blurred. Has a single (plain) slider, nothing else.
Charlie IMG_20161202_0005.jpg |
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No,
Same rubbish modern fake. regards
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Simon, thanks for the damning identification. I did aquire it in the 70s and was aware of these artillery badges being restruck at that time. I have searched around on this forum but not yet easily identified the clues to distinguishing restrikes. Was it the 'slider only' fastening that gave it away, even before other detail.
Has someone written an article on the production steps and man hours for a cap badge like this? It is interesting to note that the die for my badge is not that for Mike's, quite apart from the different voiding and cutting out. Just how many different dies are known and how much work does it take to create a die? How long does a die last? If you can point me to specific threads in this forum that would be very kind. I have read the threads on L Archer notes and the old thread on 'Artillery..the gun badge' which were helpful. Thanks again Charlie Edit: I also have a suspect 3rdMiddlesex RGA and even a Cadet for checking- should I do this on another thread? Last edited by charlie962; 03-12-16 at 12:29 PM. |
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Charlie,
i cannot answer all your questions, sorry. The slider, the metal, the shape, the fonts are all indicators Stick the others on here and we will take a look. regards
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Here is the 3 Middlesex RGA. fixing by 2 lugs behind the 'THIRD' scroll. Very lightweight metal
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Charlie,
Sorry, thats a quite horrible fake. As for the Cadets badges to follow I have only ever seen 2 real ones, but give it a go. regards
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I am still looking for British Army cloth Formation, Regimental, Battalion, Company and other Unit sleeve badges, from 1980 onwards. |
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Certainly not by many people as very, very few exist, but the two I have seen were definately genuine and period pieces. (what period exactly I dont know, but would guess 1902 - 1914 at the max.)
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I'm sure there was thread on the Great War forum that identified the gun badge with CADET upper scroll, and the cloth gun in wreath and crown with CADET as having been briefly worn by No 1 Officer Cadet School at Johns Wood near the beginning of the war. I couldn't locate my notes (if I took any), it was a while ago. Keith |
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I am still looking for British Army cloth Formation, Regimental, Battalion, Company and other Unit sleeve badges, from 1980 onwards. Last edited by 54Bty; 03-12-16 at 07:29 PM. |
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I once had a WW1 photo of a group of Canadian Artillery Officers wearing it but was to small to really make out detail. regards
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Couple here Simon,
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/fo...omment-1484913 Also mention of the Cadet gun cap badge, although it might just be supposition. Wasn't there a QVC helmet plate with CADET in the scroll above the gun, K&K if I remember. What did cadets at the 'Shop' wear Marc? Keith |
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