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05-02-24, 12:28 PM
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Colours in the British army
Dear all, as a Dutch-speaking Belgian it isn't always simple to translate. When it comes to descriptions of colours it gets even worse :-). Can somebody please tell me, or better show me, the differences between "archer green", "piper green", "emerald green" and "rifle green"? It would make it so much easier to identify some of my British parawings. Thanks a lot in advance !!
Cheers, Alain 
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05-02-24, 02:10 PM
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Alain,
A good question. In 60+ years as a collector, while I can recognise the different colours used in cloth badge backings I have yet to find an official document that shows UK SCC, BS or PANTONE numbers. There is on-line an MOD Defence Equipment & Support Specification UK/SC/4687 issue 18 dated 11 December 2017. Technical Specification for Embroidered and other distinguishing items. (51 pages). https://rmhistorical.com/files/conte...ng%20Items.pdf Table 10 (pages 14 and 15) lists badges but refers only to ‘Green’ and ‘Rifle Green’. There must be an MOD colour specification chart somewhere? The firm of Hainsworth https://www.hainsworth.co.uk/ceremonial-parade-wear/ have the MOD contract for the provision of Melton cloth for uniforms and badges which are manufactured by the Kashket/Firmin Group of companies. Tim
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#3
05-02-24, 04:02 PM
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Thanks Tim. Would it be OK if I post several parawings here in different shades of green so you can identify them for me?
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#4
05-02-24, 04:06 PM
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We can try!
Tim
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#5
05-02-24, 04:15 PM
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Here they are Tim. Number 9 looks like it is black, but it is in fact green, but very, very dark. 4 and 5 look similar, but 4 is somewhat brighter than 5. Same goes for 7 and 8, 7 is more bright. I left out the Lovat wings, the only ones I can clearly identify myself :-).
Cheers, Alain
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05-02-24, 04:39 PM
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1 is Cameronians
3 is Royal Irish Rangers now Royal Irish Regiment 4 and 5 are Rifle Brigade,then Royal Green Jackets now the Rifles. A different wing is worn on No1 dress by the RGJ and Rifles. Also 6th,7th,10th Gurkha Rifles and now Royal Gurkha Rifles
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#7
05-02-24, 05:14 PM
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Agreed on 1,3,4 and 5. No 2 is probably spurious.
However, when it comes to bullion embroidered badges worn on Number 1 Dress there are the following additional greens to consider: Dark Green - KING’s Grass Green - GREEN HOWARDS, DEVON & DORSET, RRW Cypress Green - INT CORPS Lincoln Green - WFR Very difficult to differentiate! Tim
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#8
05-02-24, 06:51 PM
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Thanks a lot guys, highly appreciated !
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#9
05-02-24, 07:56 PM
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Off topic.
It reminds me of the facing colours of the Austrian-Hungarian Army. 28 different colours and amongst them 10 shades of red (not including red-brown, which came under the "browns"). And of course material coming from different vendors (officers private purchases) and wear and weather ...... 
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