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#1
12-12-11, 02:18 AM
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What is wrong with this offering?
Someone should spend some more time counting the flames....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW1...item2c617cb63c Another faux pas?
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#3
12-12-11, 02:03 PM
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British made shell-with American liner. Not too uncommon to find examples of the initial 400,000 British made MK 1's issued to the Americans that were refurbished in their service- but then to get into Canadian service- not sure about that. Regards, Paul.
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12-12-11, 03:51 PM
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it's a bit long range sniper and a big drop short for "engineers"......????????
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#6
12-12-11, 11:27 PM
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I think a mistake over gunner or sapper insignia is understandable, but I think it very odd that the helmet has had US service, hard enough service for it to require a new liner- and then to end up in Canadian use? Am I mising anything else due to my limited Canadian knowledge? Did Canada obtain some of its helmets via the US? Regards, Paul.
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12-12-11, 11:43 PM
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Actually Paul, you have added a very good analysis. Note Stephen's comment above. Your information makes this a lot to avoid. Thanks for the information.
The badge "mistake" is part of the problem with this lot, but bringing the whole helmet into question is further evidence how important it is to research items before adding them to a collection.
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#8
13-12-11, 03:36 AM
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The Gunner's and Sapper's
It is amazing how many dealers do not know or do not care to research what they have on offer. As a collector of Artillery badges, I have on numerous occasions followed a lead on Ebay or a dealer's offering only to be confronted by the "Sapper's collar badge of the nine flame variety! (I would hazard a guess that collectors of Engineers badges get the same problem and chase down a Gunner's badge.. There is of course the odd times that you will find a collar badge of identical appearance for both gunners and sappers (universal grenade) and a grenade with nine flames with Ubique on a scroll beneath was worn by both during the period 1926-1928. However as previously stated, the badge on that helmet is definitely a gunner's. Regards, David J.
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#9
13-12-11, 04:30 AM
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Gunners, Sappers badge on the helmet...
For a relative newbie I read the threads with some fascination but would have been (for us newcomers) good to hear what the actual differences are, even some pics if someone would be so kind...have 'heard' rumblings at some trade shows but have not been able to have anyone actually tell/show me the differences in the badges, are they WWI or WWII, and what the flames mean.
Would appreciate some journeyman input for this apprentice...with kind thanks of course..
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13-12-11, 04:27 PM
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I have bought from him several times and never been dissappointed in purchasing from him. He might not be the cheapest, but he is indefinately one of the best dealers of Canadian items on the net. I won't interfere in the badge discussion, as that's not my strong point. But I do want to defend him in this matter... Cheers Ramses
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#12
15-12-11, 02:10 AM
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Listing changed, I guess we had an impact...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW1...item2c618e81d4
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#13
15-12-11, 08:32 PM
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No mention of the American liner. The crown rivet paper on US liners had a cotton web backing which this example shows. A British label was just paper so not many about. A British liner has only a couple of lines of net in a browner colour. The felt also looks the darker grey used by the US. I would be very surprised if there is a red British Brodie stamp to the reverse of the black liner. Regards, Paul.
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