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Canadian Fusiliers mystery.
A question for fellow Canadians. I have been trying to identify the patch worn by band members of the Canadian Fusiliers Regiment in this photograph. The thing that bugs me is the little "thingy" in the middle of the Pacific Command patch.I know they were part of the 13th Canadian Infantry Brigade for Operation Cottage on Kiska. Also,of the four soldiers in front, only the one on the far left seems to be wearing a cloth shoulder titles of the Canadian Fusiliers. And, the soldier in the background has a different shaped badge....Winnipeg Grenadiers? Last question, how come they are not wearing the "Kiska patch".
So, does anyone has an explanation? Jo http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/d...hki39aplh10kh3
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Tripp's book says the Winnipeg Grenadiers were "reconstituted on January 10. 1942... then served in Kiska from August 16, 1943 until December 22, 1943." So, good eye, Jo.
As for the "thingy", it's a star. From Clive Laws Distinguishing Patches: "The meaning of this star device centrally placed on the Pacific Command formation patch has not discovered. Worn here by bandsmen of the London Fusiliers on their departure for Kiska. No orders have been uncovered to authorise this patch and the Regimental Museum has no information" The photo he used is the same one you show. |
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Having served in the unit (now 4th Battalion RCR) I,ve seen alot of strange photos of The Canadian Fusiliers including one with officers wearing cloth shoulder titles on their Service Dress and the Kiska patch worn with the Pacific Command patch. Here are a few.
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A lot of time has been spent investigating the patch. To date, no actual example of the patch has surfaced in any collection. Such an example would be very useful. There are still a few unidentified and unexplained Canadian formation patches from the Second World War.
Another interesting observation. The sergeant on the left of the image wears the Canadian Fusiliers embroidered shoulder title, while none of the other Fusiliers have regimental shoulder titles. |
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Thanks to David, Michael and Bill for your input. I appreciate the effort to find an answer.
Regards. Jo
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"There truly exists but one perfect order: that of cemeteries. The dead never complain and they enjoy their equality in silence." - “There are things we know that we know,” “There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.” Donald Rumsfeld, before the Iraqi Invasion,2003. Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese. |
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Kiska patch
Another poser for you, as well. In this photo from the same search, what is on the Regiment de Hull officer's right (his) collar? Looks like a single Sault Ste. Marie & Sudbury collar. Also looks like he has a second cap badge on his beret immediately behind the Hull badge. The SSM were in 6th Div at Nanaimo at this time; would they have attached an officer from one reg. to another and would he keep wearing both badges? (BTW: Looks like Jack Layton on the left, but that's another mystery.)
Last edited by DavidS; 14-12-08 at 06:50 PM. Reason: Because I can't read. |
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