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Pith Helmet colour flash
Hello all,
i am trying to identify this flash on a 1915 dated Solar topee pith Helmet.It is Indian issue as worn by British and commonwealth troops in WW1.This example is in a New Zealand collection ,but the insignia remains a mystery at the moment.Half khaki/half red cheers iain |
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If it were Australian I'd have said it was the brown/red colour patch of 59th Bn AIF in WW1, but I doubt it.
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I might add that someone has hand written A.D.WA inside the helmet.Not a Nz name or unit.It might have some significance to another country?
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Pukaman,
When you say indian issue do you mean there is a broad arrow and the letter I inside? Or is there an Indian manufacturers label?
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Hello Jibba Jabba,
Yes,the answer is both.a H G & R LtD 1915 inside an oval and a broadarrow over a stylised I.Both in purple ink cheers |
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Hello Jibba Jabba,
Yes,the answer is both.a H G & R LtD 1915 inside an oval and a broadarrow over a stylised I.Both stamped in purple ink cheers |
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Hello iain
For my two pennies worth the flash just shouts out Australia to me. Cheers Dave
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WA for West Africa?
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The manufacturer is Hepburn, Gale & Ross Ltd. Sadly they supplied to to GB, NZ, Australia and India.
In my opinion this topee belongs to an Indian Army unit, hence the inspection mark. If it were Australian I would expect the other side of the colour path to be chocolate brown. I am unsure how the sun or any ageing process could turn it into a field grey? I could be wrong. It could be a helmet removed from Indian army stores by NZ or Australian troops. They certainly came into contact with each other during the campaign in Palestine. Convincing a collector however, of this exchange of equipment, is losing battle which I wouldnt suggest you embark upon.
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'If it were Australian I would expect the other side of the colour path to be chocolate brown. I am unsure how the sun or any ageing process could turn it into a field grey?'
Fair comment, unless the patch was made up when the 59th was first formed in Egypt with half the veterans of the 7th Bn and half new recruits. The vets would have just turned their 7th patches on their sides, but the new recruits may have been short of patches, which could then have been made up of scraps of available cloth. Of course, this could also be pure bull****, but I've seen some interesting improvisations and variations during my time as a collector! |
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Lee |
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Some New Zealander infantry wore an unofficial flash/patch in Egypt an during the Gallipoli campaign.We know from examples and from photographic evidence that was made from an infantry pugaree which was khaki/red/khaki .Unfortunitly i have found no evidence as yet as for variations on this.Maybe some one can enlighten me.
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