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Old 21-12-10, 03:13 PM
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I got this one recently and thought it was a good well made badge.Regards Phil.
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Old 21-12-10, 03:45 PM
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The 13th were Hussars, originally Dragoons an dlater Light Dragoons.
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I got this one recently and thought it was a good well made badge.Regards Phil.
The badge is pre 1947 Indian Army
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The badge is pre 1947 Indian Army
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In 1864 the 4th Sikh Irregular Cavalry became the 13th Bengal Lancers; in 1903 renamed the 13th Duke of Connaught's Own Lancers (Watson's Horse). They bore that title until 1922, when they were combined with the 16th Cavalry to form the 6th Duke of Connaught's Own Lancers. So this badge dates from the period 1903-1922. During that period the regiment saw service in Mesopotamia (WWI) and on the NW Frontier of India.

In 1924 the regiment regained the supplementary title "Watson's Horse" and remained as the 13th DCO Lancers (Watson's Horse) until Partition in 1947. In 1947 when they went to Pakistan, after exchanging their Jat squadron to the 7th Lt. Cavalry and their Sikh squadron to the 8th KGO Lt. Cavalry for two squadrons of "Punjabi Mussiman". They continue to serve in the Pakistan Armoured Corps.

Confusing, isn't it? The book The Indian Army, by Boris Mollo, Blandford Press, 1981 has excellent lists of regimental titles, infantry and cavalry, from the 1860's to 1947. Feel free to Pm or post her if you have questions and can't find a copy.

Happy Christmas to all!

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Old 23-12-10, 08:16 PM
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Gent's during the Kitchener reforms in 1903 the1st DCO Bombay Lancers became the 31st DCO Lancers and the 2nd Bombay Lancers became the 32nd Lancers. They amalgamated in 1922\3 and became the 13th DCO Lancers until 1947 when under partition went to Pakistan.The badge is from the period as above.Regards Phil.
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Oops! The result of not reading carefully enough - a long explanation about the wrong badge altogether! As Phil says, the 13th DUKE OF CONNAUGHT'S OWN LANCERS was a 1922 amalgamation of the 31st & 32nds Lancers, Bombay Presidency units, not the 1903 renaming of the of the 13th Bengals. The Latter did not add "OWN" until their 1922 re-numbering as the 6th DCO LCRS. I do apologize for the error.

The unit was one of the first two in the Indian Army to mechanize and went to Pakistan on Partition. The 32nd spent WWI on the NW Frontier but the 31st served in mespot. and garrisoned Palestine until 1923. The battle honours of the combined (31 & 32) for the period the badeg represents, still perpetuated by the Pak. Army Armoured Corps unit were: Kut al Amara 1917, Baghdad, Sharqat, Mesopotamia 1916-18, NW Frontier, India 1917, Afghanistan 1919, Damascus, Deir ez Zor, Raqaa, Syria 1941, Gazala, Bir Hacheim, El Adem, Sidi Rezegh 1942, Gambut, Tobruk 1942, Fuka, North Africa 1940-43.

Again, apologies for the sloppy work!

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Old 24-12-10, 03:12 PM
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Hello Peter, i have done this myself on more than one occasion, for some reason your brain does a back flip.That said i find i learn far more from a mistake, it seems to lodge in what's left of the old gray matter.That last place in North Africa must have been a bit of a bu...r. Best regards Phil.
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Phil

There is absolutely nothing wrong with my brain, my 55 years withstanding! I just keep forgetting to put it in [along with my teeth] before I read and respond to this forum first thing each morning. ;7)

Actually, one of the few pluses of being 5-7 hours behind European time is being able to read your posts over my morning java. Best regards and Happy Hogmany!

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