Indian Infantry badge queries

[sapper533]

Hi folks
Sorting out som Infantry badges and realised I didn't know too much about the following badges.

1. 10th Baluch Regt, is this a cap badge or a collar badge?
2. A previous thread shows this as a post 1947 Frontier Force Regt badge. But I read that the 3rd/12th Frontier Force Regt was made Royal in 1935 could this be their badge?
3. 1st/7th Dogra Regiment is this a cap or collar badge?
4. Again a previous thread says that this is the badge worn post 1947 by the Frontier Force Rifles because it doesn't have a number on it but Regiments lost their numbers in 1945 so could this have been the new badge issued then?
5. 17th Dogras is this a cap or a collar badge?
Cheers
Sean

[Wmr-RHB]

Re 2.

I doubt that because 3rd Bn (former 3rd Regiment of Sikh Infantry, PFF) never was connected to the PoW. Thus why should they switch to a badge with PoW feathers on becoming Royal?

The 1st Bn was PoWO since 1921.

[peter monahan]

The 12th FFR wote the bugle badge with a '12' in the center and 'F.F. Rifles' on a scroll flanking the numeral. In '47 it went to Pakistan as the FF Regiment. Given the uncertainty and a fair bit of evidence that IA units wore the pre-Independence badges for some time after Independence, in some cses at least, i think it unlikely that the 12th were authorized a new badge in '45.

Perhaps and officer's collar dog?

[sapper533]

Any one else have any info on the other badges?

[peter monahan]

I'd guess that most are cap badges, which are often smaller for IA units than British ones. Collars were not common to OR uniforms, as far as I've been able to tell, in either WW.

[Khyber]

To repeat above,
Most seem to be cap badges. Difficult to tell, but yes the IA badges tend to be a little smaller and often hard to say if cap/collar unless you have exact size for comparison.