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Medal Ribbon ID
Hi All
This is Lt. Basil Beresford Griffin. He entered France as a 2nd/Lt (Leics PAO Yeo) on the 15th of June 1915. He is then attached to the 7th MGC/C Sqn in 1917/18 and finished the war as Lt. Gazetted (London) on the 5th July 1919, attached 7th Squadron MGC. Can anyone ID the medal ribbon? Is it the 1915 Star?
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro Last edited by GriffMJ; 13-11-18 at 10:50 AM. |
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MC?
Edit, no, looks like he wasn't awarded a MC. Id've suggested TFWM, but there's no mention of it on his MIC. I would imagine that you've got this info: First Name: B.B. Surname: Griffin Nationality: British Information: Employed with Machine Gun Corps. Rank: Lieutenant Regiment: Regiment of Yeomanry, Leicestershire (Prince Albert's Own) (Hussars) Seniority Date: 01-Jun-16 UK Army List 1918 First Name: B B Surname: Griffin Further Information: m.Certificate of the Gunnery Staff Course or specially selected as qualified on account of service as Instructor in Gunnery. Officers holding the Gunnery Staff Course Certificate who subsequent to 1922 qualified in coast defence and/or anti-aifcraft gunnery are indicated by the addition of an asterisk and/or a dagger respectively to the symbol g., Rank: 2nd Lieutenant Service: British Army Primary Unit: Leicestershire Yeomanry (Prince Albert's Own) Archive Reference: 1916 Army List Seniority Date: 15/02/1915 Collection: UK Army List 1916 First Name: B B Surname: Griffin Nationality: British Rank: Lieutenant Rank (2nd): Lieutenant Service: British Army Regiment: Lincolnshire Yeomanry Battalion: Machine Gun Corps Seniority Date: 1.6.16 Collection: UK Army List 1918 First Name: B B Surname: Griffin Information: Attached to 7th Squadron Machine Gun Corps. Rank: Lieutenant Gallantry Awards: Mentioned In Despatches Gazette Info: Gazette issue 31435. Mentioned in Despatches. Despatch received from Field-Marshall Sir Douglas Haig, K.T., G.C.B., O.M., G.C.V.O., K.C.I.E., Commander-in-Chief, the British Armies in France. I have the honour to submit the name of this person, who served under my command during the period 16th September, 1918, to 15th March, 1919, whose distinguished and gallant services and devotion to duty I consider deserving of special mention. Gazette Date: 04/07/1919 Gazette Page: 8504 Duty Location: France Service: British Army Regiment: Leicestershire Yeomanry Battalion: Territorial Force Collection: Gazetted Awards and Mentions in Despatches First Name: Basil Beresford Surname: Griffin Regiments served with: Unit Rank Service Number Leicestershire Yeomanry Second Lieutenant Machine Gun Squadron Lieutenant Archive Reference: WO 372/8/149292 Last edited by leigh kitchen; 13-11-18 at 10:58 AM. |
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Thanks Leigh.... I didnt have the MID bit on him I can only think that the medal ribbon must be the 1915 star. The photo was taken post war by the looks (soon after)?
Trouble is..... there is no blend of colours at the sides..... it looks like straight edges?
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro |
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Here is the medal ribbon in hi def...... its not the 15 star.
Left (Auto Contrast) right (contrast as per photo)...... is it the DSO?
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro Last edited by GriffMJ; 13-11-18 at 11:32 AM. |
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I think it's BWM.
(I don't know where I was coming from with my reversed colours MC suggestion). |
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro Last edited by GriffMJ; 13-11-18 at 12:04 PM. |
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He would have been wearing the 1914/15 Star ribbon on its own in 1917 but not the Victory and BWM until 1919 so it is unlikely to be the BWM on its own.
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The photo is taken in the 1919 period
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro |
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Yes, seems odd. The only medal ribbon he could find? That seems unlikely.
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BWM
I'd say British War Medal by the colours.
Rob |
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BWM
Ditto
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Its the British War Medal.
Andy
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Thanks chaps
Here he is.... with a bit of colour in his face. LYPAO buttons with his MGC/C insignia. * When did they start wearing the pips on the shoulder straps? That should bracket the photo date as well.
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro |
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ACI 1814 of 13th December 1917 introduced officers rank badges on the shoulder straps or on the cuffs during the continuance of the war and at the option of the individual.
Guards officers already wore rank badges on the shoulder straps. Rgds, Thomas |
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Am I missing something?The original photo may be the man in question.
The film used is almost certainly orthochromatic. Ortho renders red orange yellow virtually black, yet the colouriser has rendered the pale centre part yellow. Has he/she wrongly made a best guess of the BWM? Pale usually means white or pale blue, green at a pinch, or a silvery texture. Again, if the subject is the man in question, any single ribbon should be 1914-15 star, on the assumption that the BWM and VM ribbons had not yet been authorised [fits 1919 just about] Either way, more research needed. And where is the MiD oakleaf? Is this Baz? |
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