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Help needed
I am trying to find out some information on my great grandfather who served with the RIR during the Great War. I am trying to find the exact cap badge and Collar dogs he would have worn. I have a number of his personal items and hope to have them all framed including a small bible, photo and medals.
Any help on a start point would really help. Thanks in advance Paul |
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Paul,
If you post the photo, his full name and army number with the details engraved on his WW1 medals it would help members to provide more information. Tim
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Welcome to the Forum me old mate! Ian |
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Paul
I assume that RIR is Royal Irish Rifles. The insignia worn in service dress during the great war depended on rank and , less so, which battalion your ancestor served in. Cap Badge If commissioned a cord boss was worn in the forage cap For the most part rank and file wore the white metal forage cap badge pattern 7730/1913 shown below. The 1st Bn wore a blackened version of this design, unofficially, as documented in the 1919 questionnaire return to the Imperial War Museum, also shown below. The 14th Service Bn largely wore the cap badge of the pre-war Young Citizen Volunteers Collar Badges The regiment did not wear collar badges following the rifle regiment tradition. Exceptions were officers in service dress & mess dress Shoulder titles metal shoulder titles were worn supplemented with cloth versions as an economy factor from 1916 onwards. If you clarify the rank and battalion we should be able to id the cap badge worn and also show the shoulder title and buttons if desired. John |
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The young citizens badge, attached
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My wife's great uncle Rifleman Samuel Wilson 13th (Co Down) Battalion Royal Irish Rifles. Died 1 July 1916 in the 36th Ulster Division attack at Thiepval on the Somme.
He is wearing Service Dress with the Royal Irish Rifles white metal cap badge as shown in Joh's post above. Tim
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