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17-09-14, 07:39 AM
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Spurious Gaunt London Plates on RND badges
There appears to be a recent influx of dodgy badges to the market with "Suspect" "J.R.GAUNT LONDON" makers plates! Mostly on eBay but a reputable dealer and Forum member has been "Hood Winked" no pun intended, as they have recently listed three RND badges (now removed from sale), all of which appear to sporting wonky plates?
There was the Lonsdales that Simon (Longshanks) started a thread on and now these! I will add a guide to this thread later today! Andy Last edited by 2747andy; 17-09-14 at 08:23 AM. 
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17-09-14, 08:39 AM
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Plated Royal Naval Division Badges
If any member is pondering over purchasing a Plated (plate attached and not the coating) RND, then a visit to Paddy's RND album may save you some embarrassment and a considerable amount of cash too!
Andy
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17-09-14, 08:48 AM
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Funny you should bring that up Alan. I bought a good Highlanders badge a few years ago that has the location of the plate, but it looks removed, or it may have fell off. Not sure. Maybe it was added to a RND etc to get the value you say. I mean a 10 pound Scots badge to get a 100 pound RND. Here's the badge http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=90686 Simon.
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#7
17-09-14, 09:34 AM
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Nah Andy. The edge you see at the bottom is raised. The plate is actually gone. You need to see it from an angle. But it's framed now so I can't post one for you.
I think it may have fell off, or maybe prized off. Simon.
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#8
17-09-14, 09:46 AM
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Simon,
I disagree, it looks as though it is still there, but you have the badge!  They are often polished smooth, as I believe the War Office stopped makers marking their badges, and it was probably easier to polish them smooth than to remove those already fitted?The original plates are paper thin, quite often not neatly cut as are the Fake ones! The lettering is often very lightly struck, whereas on the copies it is often very deep. The genuine plates measure 8mm (wide) 3-4mm (high), the Fakes are often larger. The genuine plates have at least two layouts to the Font, on one the J.R.GAUNT and LONDON the same length and sit neatly above each other on the other style the LONDON is again below but slightly narrower and sits justified. On the Fake plates, which are often much thicker, the LONDON is wider than the J.R.GAUNT set above it! Some genuine examples, the RE has been cleaned to aid photography! Andy
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#9
17-09-14, 10:03 AM
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A fake plate on a fake CHICKEN, next to a Genuine plate on a Dragon. Even from the images you can see the wonky plates are larger and thicker!
Last edited by 2747andy; 17-09-14 at 10:10 AM.
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17-09-14, 10:15 AM
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Very good observations Andy and I note that the dealer has now removed the items.
Its good to know that reputable dealers value their customers and their reputation and listen to comments made by others (as opposed to those who are in a constant state of denial). Ivan
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17-09-14, 04:27 PM
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Back on Thread
Here are the badges that were removed from sale, provided by Lew Shotton for the use of Forum members, Many thanks! The detail on the front of the badges is clearly different to that on the originals but the effort gone in to "Forging" these plates is a worry and members should consider the pointers posted above on encountering a "Plated" badge!
Andy
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#12
17-09-14, 07:17 PM
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Andy,
Not wishing to hijack your thread (honest Guv). Would it be worthwhile people sending pictures of their real and fake tablets a bit like the 'cast badge' thread? Am happy to contribute with what I have. Ivan
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