RCAF Crowns???

[blueboy684]

I would like to avail myself to the collective knowledge here regarding a couple of King's Crowns on RAF blue/grey cloth that until very recently I thought were Air Training Corps Cadet Warrant Officer and Air Training Corps Adult Warrant Officer (non RAF WO service).

Can anyone possibly enlighten me as to their identities???

The King's Crown backing is 60mm at it widest by 57mm at the highest with the badge itself being 46mm at the widest by 48mm from the top of the cross to the bottom of the cushion. The backing is a cream canvas.

The Crown/Wreath backing is 70mm at the widest by 56mm at its highest. The badge itself is 58mm at the very widest by 45mm from the top of the laurel leaf to the bottom of the stalk and the backing is a dark blue cotton material.

Any information would be gratefully received and may be moved on if positively identified as non-RAF.