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Old 18-08-18, 11:21 PM
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The ace of spades is 246 Coy. (sorry 'bout that)
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Thanks Jack for the reply to question.

As mentioned, they do look similar in construction to the liberty loan patches and that's what got me thinking about war time / economy construction methods.

You picked up some nice badges mate.

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A few more posts and that about wraps it up other than a few odd pieces. A couple more unknowns in the second group, bottom row, Mailed fist and axe... 9 over tree, possibly another Pioneer Coy based on colors. There was a strong presence of AA and related unit signs in this group.

I am starting to think that this group may have been at one time part of a manufacturers sales or portfolio book. One each of most all patches,spanning several years and all of similar manufacture. Ranging from common signs to the not so common signs. thanks for all the comments
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The inclusion of the 52nd Lowland Division sign in this group might suggest that the manufacturer of the woven badges was "Anderson's of Edinburgh." When I purchased a similar example of that sign some time ago, I was told they were the likely makers...
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The inclusion of the 52nd Lowland Division sign in this group might suggest that the manufacturer of the woven badges was "Anderson's of Edinburgh." When I purchased a similar example of that sign some time ago, I was told they were the likely makers...
Dob, thank you for that input. This meaning Wm Anderson and Son Ltd Edinburgh and Glasgow?
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I'm afraid I didn't have the good sense to inquire further about "Anderson's of Edinburgh" at the time. Hopefully some of experts on the Forum will be able to say "yea" or "nay," and provide details...
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I'm afraid I didn't have the good sense to inquire further about "Anderson's of Edinburgh" at the time. Hopefully some of experts on the Forum will be able to say "yea" or "nay," and provide details...
am unsure also. I did do a search and found several pieces of WW2 military wear made by this firm. While not seeing formation signs I did see a WW2 Tam O’Shanter made by this firm badged to Royal Scots officer. What I noticed however was the makers label inside the Tam was made very similar to the weave of the signs from this group. So a possibility.
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Hi Jack, Andersons were a supplier and seem to have applied their name to whatever they sold. The 52nd had a stiffener added with their name printed on them, I can photo them tomorrow if you like. The axe and gauntlet is the 1st Armoured group. The knight and shield was the figure head for the Daily Express and I think the silver on black version may be 2nd Armoured Group. There is very little information on these Armoured Groups as they were rapidly superseded by other command structures, hope this helps Mike
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I, for one, would love to see the photo of the Anderson name, as it seems to be worn off the stiffener on my 52nd badge. And thanks!
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Thanks Mike,

The 52d does have a stiffener to reverse but no name at least that I can see. The vast majority do not have a stiffener to the reverse and the weave is exposed. I assume a stiffener would be added post weaving?

Appreciate the Id on the 1st Armored Group. .. Forum member Rolfi had suggested a possible Pioneer connection on the Crusader patch. I had read somewhere that the Armored Group signs were quickly superseded and short lived.

Did a quick look at the Daily Express logo and it does share some similarities.

Took a quick shot of the 52d reverse.
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Well Jack,

Your comment about the tam-o'-shanter sent me to the closet, and look what I found! The man who gave me this was in the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders in WWII through the early fifies, so while the badge is anodized, the tam may be older...

My 52nd looks exactly the same as yours, just much more worn...
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Dob, very nice. Glad to hear your 52d is similar. Thanks for your interest on this topic.
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Well Jack,

Your comment about the tam-o'-shanter sent me to the closet, and look what I found! The man who gave me this was in the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders in WWII through the early fifies, so while the badge is anodized, the tam may be older...

My 52nd looks exactly the same as yours, just much more worn...
The tam-o'-shanter would probably be early 1950s as well.

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Hi, here are the rear of the 52nds. Mike
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Thanks, BWEF, I should have noticed that. And, Mike, those are awesome markings. If such marks were on the reverse of my 52nd badge, they are long gone. Thanks for sharing those photos.
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