Leeds Pals Cap badge

[MH331]

Leeds Pals, heavily tarnished rather than bronzed.

[Luke H]

Originally Posted by MH331

Leeds Pals, heavily tarnished rather than bronzed.

I agree.

[manchesters]

Mark,

Is that from the Duggleby Stephenson auction?

regards

[oc14]

Could have been deliberately tarnished, a lot of them were when the Battalion left Egypt in early 1916 on their way to France. Whatever the reason, it's a lovely textbook example of how a Leeds Pals cap badge should be ….

PL

[MH331]

It is Simon.

Regards

Mark

QUOTE=manchesters;520955]Mark,

Is that from the Duggleby Stephenson auction?

regards[/QUOTE]

[manchesters]

Lots 103 and 105 were two wonderful lots particularly to the Yorkshire based regiments.

You had the advantage of being able to go and inspect them as the photos were tantalising but not good enough to bid what you did.

If any bullion items are for sale please drop me an email.

regards

[Peter Brydon]

I once added a thread ( which I cannot now find ) about soldiers in Gallipoli blackening their cap badges with creosote and burnt cork and I wonder if it might have been a fairly wide spread practice in WW1.

P.B.

[mike_vee]

Originally Posted by Peter Brydon

I once added a thread ( which I cannot now find ) about soldiers in Gallipoli blackening their cap badges with creosote and burnt cork and I wonder if it might have been a fairly wide spread practice in WW1.

P.B.

Here is the thread (post #6) :

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ote#post254300


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[leigh kitchen]

Originally Posted by Peter Brydon

I once added a thread ( which I cannot now find ) about soldiers in Gallipoli blackening their cap badges with creosote and burnt cork and I wonder if it might have been a fairly wide spread practice in WW1.

P.B.

I think it's in Denis Winters "Deaths Men" that it's stated that The 2nd Dragoons (Royal Scots Grey's) camouflaged their grey horses during WWI by applying creosote. I don't think a coat or two of creosote would do a horse much good, perhaps he meant "badges" rather than "horses" .

[Hoot]

Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

I think it's in Denis Winters "Deaths Men" that it's stated that The 2nd Dragoons (Royal Scots Grey's) camouflaged their grey horses during WWI by applying creosote. I don't think a coat or two of creosote would do a horse much good, perhaps he meant "badges" rather than "horses" .

Their grey horses were dyed chestnut brown but certainly not with creosote, that would have resulted in severe burns and a great deal of suffering for the unfortunate beasts.

[cbuehler]

I strongly doubt that this particular badge was purposely darkened in any way.
The artificial methods used buy soldiers in the field would have resulted in a rather messy looking badge and would not have been maintained in this way later on. The chances of any badge surviving in such a state today would be extremely low.
A very nice example with a dark natural age patina in my opinion.
CB